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“I will show him how much he must suffer for my name." "For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him," "For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his...

“I will show him how much he MUST suffer for my name." "For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to SUFFER FOR him," "For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you MIGHT FOLLOWin his...

Why wouldn't I just teach them how to properly ride the bike and follow them as they are riding to prevent the fall from happening? Why does the child need to be hurt to perfect bike riding?

I don't believe in physical discipline so maybe I don't absorb your analogy that well. I would like to argue that whopping your children is a big difference from suffering considering suffering can be anything vague from your day going bad to having a disease to being tortured and dying. Much...

Yes but if God is causing the suffering wouldn't it be his will and thus pleasing him? He wouldn't do something out of his will right? Just trying to understand.

Yes but if God is causing the suffering wouldn't it be his will and thus pleasing him? He wouldn't do something out of his will right? Just trying to understand.

So how do you intertwine and a loving fatherly God with a God who likes to cause you pain and suffering.

wait so do you believe God allows suffering or causes it?

I'm going to repost an OP from a reddit thread Suffering is seen as a good thing in Christianity. For the most part your average Christian will claim that suffering is simply God attempting to make you better like and train you. In fact it’s even promised in the Bible that followers will...