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Something to not forget... not saying you're wrong, just something more to think about. In my understanding, Christ was the law and took the place of the old Mosaic Law which was a shadow of things to come. What did Christ have to say about this? Say no more... John 12:48–50 (NASB95) 48“He...

When I read your message above, I about fell out of the chair... this part of the country, Missouri Ozarks, is absolutely full of charismatic churches so I'm guessing there's a lot of that spread around the nation also. When I saw the title, it took about one two seconds to register what was...

These verses were used as the basis for the belief mentioned but I can't speak as to current beliefs... haven't been around that church for some time. Things may have changed... toss it out in the SDA portion of the forums and see what happens. Daniel 12:1 (NASB95) 1“Now at that time Michael...

I check parallel versions on a regular basis for three reasons... 1) to increase my level of understanding, 2) to check for differences in wording, and 3) if there are differences in wording, dictionaries, lexicons and possibly even commentaries are used to check translation of key words. God...

So far, I haven't found any of the versions that are perfectly preserved... here's a site that lists the changes to the KJV over the years. Do you know of any versions that haven't changed since their original printing? I'm not looking to argue, just providing some input. Changes to the KJV...

No Catholic bash meant... I simply mean that I can find no scriptural basis for her status. You have scripture against scripture support for her status as stated by your church, I'm open to considering your viewpoint. I'm not in these forums to teach or preach... I'm a Bible student, not a...

Chopped out most of your post... wanted to address the latter portion only. For the most part I use the NASB but I keep the KJV and Young's Literal Translation in ready reserve for a parallel comparison (other translations are available). And, in this case, the NASB had the root word totally...

No, if there's one thing that I'm not, that is locked into doctrine. I'm always open to someone using scripture against scripture with some history thrown in for good measure to get their point across. I'm too prone for mistakes to think that I've got the one and only answer. Plus I spent...

I know a wall when I see one... we'll have to agree to disagree. However I will comment that Vlach's arguments are much stronger and have scripture to include scriptural logic behind them. Isolated verses? I'm afraid not... that's not happening in Vlach's paper. And if you're bored, you can...

Well, you've seen the scriptures I quoted which put Him physically on this planet (Zechariah 8:3 and 14:4 in particular) so we'll have to agree to disagree. As I said in earlier messages, I refuse to argue when I'm looking at scripture that verifies what I believe and, there is a paper on the...

You asked for examples of differences in a previous message and others answered before I got a chance to look up a suitable document on the Internet to answer your question. Actually, I don't consider the differences to be a real problem (oppose any particular translation) and I used to have an...

Interesting article... the author makes a good argument.

How 2 Thessalonians 2, Zechariah 14 and Revelation 20 mesh together is interesting to contemplate... the Millennium time frame is something that intrigues me quite a bit and instigates a lot of study on my part. It's not something that I worry about... it simply an interesting time frame to...

I'm with you on this subject and frequently pull up parallel versions of the Bible to cross check what's being said. However, most of the time, I use the NASB with frequent checks of the KJV and Young's Literal Translation and, assorted dictionaries and lexicons when I think it's a key word. I...

I was wondering when the subject of the new earth and the Kingdom of Heaven versus Heaven would enter the picture... it's an area I'm interested in so perhaps someone can bring in some scriptures that apply. For example, when Jesus talks about the angels, Himself and the Father, He mentions...

I was waiting for this verse to surface... I'm another non-church goer I suppose because of me studying my way out of a church and haven't found another that I'm comfortable with. However, that's beside the point. In order for the whole message to come to bear, I believe one should bring in...

You hit your subject with so much scripture, it's sorta like trying to sip from a fire hose! At first glance, I'm agreeing with you about Mary's status as Christ's mother but not the mother of the Son of God. But, I'm going to have to read your scriptural quotes and think about it a bit...

My user name tells some of my story... from the Ozarks in Missouri and was definitely a prodigal son for a long time before returning to Christ. I'm an inquisitive sort, not a Bible scholar but definitely a Bible student. Areas of interest at present would be the Millennium, Heaven vs Kingdom...