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  1. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    Yes, I agree that circle (chuwg) means circle. The word upon is translated from the hebrew word עַל {al} (Strong's 05921) and it can mean a number of things, for example: upon, above, over. In most translations it is translated as above. So I could say: God sits "above" it. Not "in" it. Not...
  2. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    "The issue is how “literal creationists” are actually only selective literalists (or, as I would call them, “inconsistent literalists”). If one was truly consistent in interpreting the creation description in Genesis 1 at face value (along with other creation descriptions in both testaments)...
  3. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    "The Hebrew word that is used in Isaiah 40:22 (חוּג, chug) does not at all imply a spherical earth. The root word only occurs in the Hebrew Bible once as a verb (Job 26:10). In nominal forms, the same root occurs four times, three as the noun חוּג (chug; Job 22:14, Prov 8:27, Isa 40:22), and once...
  4. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    "A circle is no more a sphere in Scripture than it is in geometry. Looking at these usages together, I am hard put to see how anyone could justify rendering chûgh in Isa. 40:22a as "sphericity."22 The earliest translations of these Scriptures bear this out. In the Septuagint (LXX), the...
  5. T. Taylor

    Is the Earth flat or round???

    It may be. :)
  6. T. Taylor

    Is the Earth flat or round???

    For example, because nobody who believes in the edge went there and made videos.
  7. T. Taylor

    Is the Earth flat or round???

    Your conclusion is incoherent. As if you said, people have been at Loch Ness, therefore there is no such thing as a lake monster. Even if there is no monster, this cannot be drawn from the premis. I think you wanted to say something like this: People have been to Antarctica and nobody has seen...
  8. T. Taylor

    Is the Earth flat or round???

    My point is that doesn't matter how educated you are if your knowledge doesn't match up with reality. For example if you know everything about a novel it is still fiction.
  9. T. Taylor

    Is the Earth flat or round???

    In my opinion your opinion is uneducated. :) Can you imagine that you know very little about the the earth?
  10. T. Taylor

    Is the Earth flat or round???

    You mean the edge of an imaginary floating disk earth that you fantasize about? Why can't you imagine a flat earth where the edge is an impassable barrier and therefore nobody can fall off to nowhere?
  11. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    It is not an essential point of Christian doctrine indeed but it belongs to the foundations of faith.
  12. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    CHAP. XXIV.—OF THE ANTIPODES, THE HEAVEN, AND THE STARS. How is it with those who imagine that there are antipodes opposite to our footsteps? Do they say anything to the purpose? Or is there any one so senseless as to believe that there are men whose footsteps are higher than their heads? or...
  13. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    From Ante Nicene Fathers: …For man, being below, begins to build from the earth, and cannot in order make the roof, unless he has first laid the foundation… Wherefore, also, the prophet mentioned that the creation of the heavens first of all took place, as a kind of roof, saying: “At the first...
  14. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    From the apocryplal writings and qumran scrolls: 58. He hath shut the sea in the midst of the waters, and with his word hath he hanged the earth upon the waters. 59. He spreadeth out the heavens like a vault; upon the waters hath he founded it. 2 Esdras, 16 4 'O you that have made the...
  15. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    The following quotes are from Lactantius on the false wisdom of philosophers (Ante Nicene Fathers, Vol. 7): "Therefore, leaving the authors of this earthly philosophy, who bring forward nothing certain, let us approach the right path…" "To understand that which is false is truly the part of...
  16. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    I say it again. These two quotes about the world fit well into "biblical flat earth cosmology".
  17. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    "Flat earthers" do understand analogies (generalized like you did) and don't take everything absolutely literally, especially if it's a very clear analogy. The Josephus quote is not clear round(globe) earth but globe earthers try to forcefully turn it into a globe earth. Very Wrong. The...
  18. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    From Hippolytus, The Refutation of All Heresies: "We propose to furnish an account of the tenets of natural philosophers, and who these are, as well as the tenets of moral philosophers, and who these are; and thirdly, the tenets of logicians, and who these logicians are. Among natural...
  19. T. Taylor

    Isaiah 40:22 -- "Globe of the Earth"

    About Josephus I already told you that his standpoint is clear... From these quotes (apart from Augustine maybe) we cannot decide explicitly what Earth-shape those authors believed in. Moreover these "fathers" were influenced by different pagan ideas and human philosophies (mostly greek from...