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No. And that's all I have to say about that.

I can see the thread title coming soon...”Did Adam and Eve poop?” *edit* For the record my position would be yes, both pre and post fall. LOL!

Sounds like you have reached the answer to one of the four questions every single human being eventually has to come up with answers for. 1) who am I? 2) Where did I come from? 3) What is my purpose? 4) What is my destiny? Since you have logically concluded that God exists, I would suggest...

This is correct. If one uses the Greek words in the text I think it clears up so much confusion. "Thou art Petros, and upon this petra I will build My church."

It's really not. Those with their own agenda on the matter (not you) have made it so. Pretty much every place where water baptism is mentioned, especially in association with salvation, they cry "that's not water!", and they replace what is clearly water baptism with HS baptism to fit their...

Ok, I see your point. What might it teach the sincere soul earnestly seeking the truth of God’s word who has not yet come to obey the Gospel? Anything?

Thank you. And did you have a scripture(s) in mind regarding “the list of 7 Holy Spirit gifts sent to the saved”?

Would you mind sharing the specific scripture(s) on which these statements are based? I have made the mistake of being presumptuous before and am trying not to be a repeat offender.

Yes, agreed. And what does this particular event teach us?

Oh it was ChristianForCats analogy.

In my experience perceived contradictions come from two primary sources. 1) lack of knowledge about what scripture actually says, and 2) refusal to allow scriptures to say what they actually say. Agreed 100% on the fact that Jesus is not the author of confusion.

I tend to use a "strict" definition of the term because I believe it to be one of the most misunderstood and misrepresented concepts in Christendom. I'll stay with your (American) football analogy, although I do it with some hesitation because people like to poke holes in analogies that weren't...

I actually borrowed that turn of phrase from a couple I know who described their own experience in those terms. They were both pre-teens and had grown up being taught that baptism for the remission of sins is a requirement for salvation. Both were “baptized” at age 12. But in retrospect one said...

Albion, I have grown to appreciate and respect your contributions to every discussion when our paths have crossed, whether we were in agreement or not. So I don't take this observation about how my comment landed with you lightly. Perhaps I should have left that last sentence out as I had made...

Yes. Although I would clarify by adding that it should not be called baptism at all, at least not biblical baptism for the remission of sins. People are just getting babies wet, they are not baptizing them.

Here is a point on which we can agree. Also, babies have not sinned and do not need remission of sins.

There is no such thing as baptism without faith. Faith has to be there, otherwise it’s just getting wet. Let’s try this. Consider Naaman’s story in 2 Kings. Was it the water itself that cleansed him of his leprosy? Or was it the power of God expressed through the means that He determined...

Israel is included in “all nations”, is it not? And since Peter first preached the gospel to a group of Jews in Jerusalem, the same ones that had crucified Christ, and told them to repent and “let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins...”, And since...

Ummm, because Jesus said so? Because He commanded His apostles to go out to the whole world making disciples by baptizing them and teaching them to observe all things He commanded? Because that’s exactly what they proceeded to do? Because time after time after time when people were being...

How do you know he wasn’t? The Bible doesn’t say one way or the other, but he was a Jew who lived in a place and time when a great many Jews were being baptized by John. So why assume not? Anyway, he also lived and died under the Old Covenant. Baptism was not required under Mosaic Law. Lastly...