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  1. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    TIME FOR BULLYING?? I'M DONE. THANK YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  2. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    What this all has to do with the topic, I truly don't know. Pretty insulting to tell this to someone simply asking questions.
  3. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    People mean different things by the end.
  4. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    So rude! *ignored*
  5. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    In a nutshell, the Christian doctrine is pretty clear to me: believe in Christ or else you're going to a bad place. There are many interpretations into the specifics of exactly how to believe in Christ, and what is the bad place. But the fundamental logic is such. Thus, church ministires...
  6. Just_a_Joe

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    Not so many people had access to the OT and believed in it in that age. Many people around the world had no idea about the OT. So, it's exactly the same argument. Many people haven't heard. Jesus revealed openly or Jesus mysteriously hidden among the pages of the OT. This is speculation, isn't...
  7. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    This kind of changes my image of God as loving, just, kind, benevolent, merciful and impartial to all. What you described is a different kind of God, quite harsh, I would say. If He knows people aren't going to accept His message, then He won't bother even telling it to them. Now I think of all...
  8. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    Sorry, I didn't understand what happens to those who haven't heard the gospel. Are they judge by the law of their conscience? Or do they go to perdition because they weren't raised at the return of Christ?
  9. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    What about people? Will they cease to exist or not? What exactly happens to them? Who weren't born of the Spirit.
  10. Just_a_Joe

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    What you're trying to convince me in is not what I've been hearing in all churches I went to. They said, faith in Jesus or hell/separation from God/annihilation. No third option. Now you're making it sound as if there is a third option. Or am I understanding you incorrectly all along? Never...
  11. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    I understand. Facts don't support this belief. It would have been great if the world really operated like that. But it doesn't.
  12. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    Now you say I'm making up excuses just for the sake of saying anything against your beliefs. I'm not a kid who makes a fuss just because they didn't get something... I'm talking honestly. Muslims do know about Jesus. Especially who have Christians in close proximity. I'm sure Muhammed heard...
  13. Just_a_Joe

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    OK. I understand. So - who wants to be saved, will be saved through Jesus no matter what. I've had the same belief explained to me earlier, and my answer to that was: It sounds good and fair, but I think all facts point to that it doesn't work that way. Or we would have to make some strange...
  14. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    I'm not even opening that can of worms , excuse me my expression of speech... Pre-Jesus is simply just absolutely unanswerable in any logical way. Or it might be the same situation with post-Jesus, but for the whole world instead of a part of it.
  15. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    You say yes - meaning, going to hell?
  16. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    On what basis will this category of people be judged in regards to their eternal fate?
  17. Just_a_Joe

    Only way?

    OK! So, in effect, Jesus Christ isn't the only way - for those not knowing about Him. What about Muslims, for example, who do regard Jesus highly but consider Him to be a great prophet only?
  18. Just_a_Joe

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    OK, I understand. Well, it sounds quite nice what you say. But it's just not realistic. According to this belief, nobody's searching today in most of the world and throughout history. If this is how it works, then If you're born in a non-Christian land as opposed to a traditionally Christian...
  19. Just_a_Joe

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    OK - thank you for explaining further, now I understand. So what is the fate of those who were born of the flesh? Do you believe in literal hell as the place of damnation for eternity? That the souls (minds, personalities) of those spiritually dead people will remain alive or in some form of...