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If you can't (or won't) give a simple reply, then you have failed to communicate. I gave my answer to your opening post (actually I asked you to define terms), in your OP. Not my monkey, not my circus. How do you define "believing", "faith", and "work"? Until you define them as you...

Can you give me two or 3 points? Keep it simple. Remember the "KISS" principle. The best discussions start simple. If you can't do this, then you have failed.

Hello, In the Old Testament, God speaks of the people He has chosen (much discussion to be had here). I will claim that God wants all people to come to Him. The choice is now ours. How do we respond to Him? Did not God choose a "people"? Did all those "chosen" come to Him? In The Book of...

Can you give me a short version? If not, I'm done.

Yet another long post. I've been doing this for 25 years and was a moderator for several. Any thread should be started with as simple of a post as possible. This is not how a thread should start out.

Well, "election", or the "elect", however you want to define it/them, is spoken of in scripture; many cite Ephesians chapter 1 for example. It is just that the reformed version of individual election fails to fit scripture in too many places. So, what is the definition of election (or the...

Well, that depends upon how you define those terms. (And "No", I didn't read your post) Try to start simple. I've been on biblical message boards for over 25 years and a moderator for many of those. Start simple.

This one is pretty easy, you get lost, then you get saved. That is the order.

Hello Blaise, This is one of those hard (and emotional) questions. First, let's acknowledge that God is both fair and just; also let's acknowledge that the Bible doesn't tell us everything we would like to know (probably because we wouldn't or couldn't understand it all). So, here are my...

Hello, I'm going to say that the doctrine of election is biblical, but not how reformed theology defines it. Do you want to discuss? If so, let me know.

Hello Dan, I did not read through your list, but we can talk if you want. Anyone can say they are saved, and many do who are not (or will fall away) Let's start simple. In your mind (your reading of scripture) which verse perhaps best captures the distinction between the righteous and the...

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Yes, a person who "falls away" can return (but many, perhaps most, don't). Let me know if you want to discuss.

Hello, There are two basic views on election - individual and corporate. I believe corporate is the biblical position; reformed theology goes the individual route, and unconditional (individual) election is their term for it. Let me know if you want to discuss.

Oh, boy. It has been several years since I was here. Calvinism (reformed theology) is very messed up. Don't let it bother you. We can talk if you want, but I don't have time to read your whole post. If you want, we can begin slowly and carefully.

If you asked this question in supposed seriousness, then you are unworthy of a genuinely serious answer.

I'm sorry, but you might be looking for something that isn't there. God is not taken out of the way ever. A gathering after the AoD, yes.

John 6:44 is much discussed - and usually quite out of context. The verse affirms that the Father is working through Jesus - and without the Father Jesus does not work (Jesus is not working on His own by Himself - those looking for the Father have found Him in the Son, and are being drawn by...

No, just nothing you would accept.

I am very sure that I can show you nothing.