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We discussed this already, bling. The prodigal was already chosen. He was already a son. He is not someone from the village who just shows up and chooses the land owner to be his father. If you are going to attempt to use a parable to build your theology around, at least set the table...

Jesus gave Paul the words to write. We have just discussed Jesus words in John. At this point you are openly rejecting God's word. There is nothing more to say when you reject God's word to maintain an errant theology.

Ew, Jesus (God) gives us all the Scripture. You have no reason to reject the verses that show God choosing. On top of this, I already showed how John 6:37 also teaches that God chose us. There is nothing left to say on this matter. You are clearly rejecting Scripture in an effort to retain...

I am grateful for God's grace, given to me by God's choice. Titus 3:4-7 [4]But—When God our Savior revealed his kindness and love, [5]he saved us, not because of the righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He washed away our sins, giving us a new birth and new life through the...

How good it is to read God's word. 2 Timothy 1:9-12 [9]For God saved us and called us to live a holy life. He did this, not because we deserved it, but because that was his plan from before the beginning of time—to show us his grace through Christ Jesus. [10]And now he has made all of this...

I love God's word. 1 Timothy 1:13-17 [13]even though I used to blaspheme the name of Christ. In my insolence, I persecuted his people. But God had mercy on me because I did it in ignorance and unbelief. [14]Oh, how generous and gracious our Lord was! He filled me with the faith and love that...

And... Colossians 2:13-14 [13]You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. [14]He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross.

Here's more... Colossians 1:11-14 [11]We also pray that you will be strengthened with all his glorious power so you will have all the endurance and patience you need. May you be filled with joy, [12]always thanking the Father. He has enabled you to share in the inheritance that belongs to his...

Thanks. I'll share a favorite passage. Ephesians 2:1-10 [1]Once you were dead because of your disobedience and your many sins. [2]You used to live in sin, just like the rest of the world, obeying the devil—the commander of the powers in the unseen world. He is the spirit at work in the hearts...

You keep asking a question that is not supported in the Bible. The Bible says that God makes us alive, then we respond and come to worship Him. You keep reversing this process despite the evidence of God's word. You have become a broken record that asks an illogical question over and over again.

That is not what the verse states at all. I cannot make the verse say something it doesn't say.

We all have done similar things. I once shared similar views as they hold. As I read God's word, I came to see verse after verse, passage after passage, that spoke to God's sovereignty and choice in saving me. My selfish and prideful arguing gave way to resting in God's grace alone. I honestly...

You know your statement is false. The passages that I have shared all support God's work in choosing us. I am sorry you and Ew are struggling with understanding God's word.

How does the Father give them to Yeshua if God did not choose them? Choice is obviously implied in the verse. I know you claim to have chosen to follow God and you truly believe it. You can continue to believe that if you want. You just can't get it from John 6:37. John 6:37 presents God's...

It should be noted, I meant John 6:37, not John 3:37. There is no 37th verse in John 3.

The verse YOU shared says God chooses and gives them to the Son, then we follow. It is right in the verse you quoted. Now you say that the verse is stating things backward. I cannot help you if you claim God's word is backward. John 6:37-39 [37]However, those the Father has given me will come...

I answered. God chose. God made me alive. I follow Yeshua. That is what John 3:37 says. Thanks for sharing a great verse that makes my point for me. I can't help you if you cannot follow that sequence outlined in the Bible. God choses. God makes us alive. We respond and follow Yeshua.

It's interesting when people stop reading what John 3:37 says. The Father (God) gives to the Son (God). After that, the ones chosen by God the Father, come to the Son. Yes, after God chose me, I came to follow Yeshua. God chose me. I come to Yeshua after that. It is the only way the Bible...

John 6:37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. What is it about "All that the Father gives me" that people don't understand? It is wonderfully joyful to know the Father chooses and gives them to the Son. All that God...

Hmmm...who was it that chose the ones who who respond to Jesus? Anybody willing to answer that question? It's right in the verse, in case you can't figure it out. What comes first, the response to Jesus or the Father's choice? Hmmm... Once again, I am grateful to God for his gracious choice...