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  1. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    Yes it can. Its happening on this thread when people ask for evidence. Then when none can be shown to their satification end of story. May as well concede. No I believe. Its convincing those who disagree on this thread lol. Therefore theres nothing anyone can say who disagrees with life being...
  2. stevevw

    Breaking: Venezuela attacked by U.S. Update: Maduro and wife captured.

    What is wrong with people that they cannot give credit where credits due. I don't agree with everything Trump does. But he is changing the landscape of the world at the moment and at least some is worthy of credit. I have never seen a leader do anything like this in a long time. He does what he...
  3. stevevw

    Breaking: Venezuela attacked by U.S. Update: Maduro and wife captured.

    Yeah its becoming apparent that Trump has this knack of relating or something to other leaders. The art of the sale. He is able to get leaders to see things differently. Different futures. Then is able to make it happen. But like you say I think he also knows how to use the best people and get...
  4. stevevw

    Breaking: Venezuela attacked by U.S. Update: Maduro and wife captured.

    They should make a movie about this. I have never seen something like this happen for a long time. One minute I am seeing Trump broker a peace deal and the next taking a dictator out. This is Indiana Jones stuff lol. Either that or a bad action movie. Or maybe a horror.
  5. stevevw

    First lesbian archbishop laments people leaving church over her sexuality: 'Very hurtful' GAFCON leader points to warning in Romans 1:26

    I think in the end we have to allow what will be, will be. I don't think getting into the politics helps. This only makes the church another waring identity amoung many on the political and social front. I think these things sort themselves out in the end. I don't think any amount of argueing...
  6. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    You just said we can't use scientific evidence as its bunk if it tries to show life was created. I don't think theres much choice. No I have already conceded if this is the case. I am just making sure theres no other way around it that allows those who disagree to participate. If using science...
  7. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    Then anyone who disagrees with the science would have to concede at least for this thread. I cannot see any way they can have any scientific evidence. Even if they did it is not really science.
  8. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    So how does one disagree with life forming on its own. Yes I know and thats why I have nothing for proving life was created. Do you think the OP poses a philosophical question. But did not you just say argueing for Intelligent design is bunk. Or are you saying we can only create a negative...
  9. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    Thats what I was doing but was told I can't as its not science lol. That is philsophy lol. I am really confused now. I was literally just told by others we can't use faith as evidence. As something for evidence. I know faith is everything. But that means nothing on this thread.
  10. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    Ok well I canot get into a thread about science that is going to support itself and not allow any other evidence. Like I said if we cannot even use science because its classed as bunk in trying to prove God and we can use testimony or anything else but naturalistic science. Then I concede lol.
  11. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    Yes I have already acknowledged this. I am saying what now? Is that it ? lol. What does this mean ". Is it cased clased and ultimately we can say theres no evidence for a creator God fundementally or ontologically:/ I've never written so many ? in me life. Ok so this is where I think it gets a...
  12. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    But that doesn't explain how one argues the case for Gods creation rather than life forming on its own. The OP says they disagree with the scientists beliefs that life formed on its own and says God was involved. It seems to me this is a debate on this. So how can those who disagree even argue...
  13. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    What do you mean the same ones mentioned in the OP. The scientists that claimed life formed on its own through naturalistic causes and not God. How do we address that if we disagree with these scientists.
  14. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    So how does one dispute that life did not form on its own ? Does this then mean that science has proven its case ultimately ?. That life formed on its own naturalistically ? Except theres no evidence that life formed on its own either and to claim such is a metaphysical belief claim and not a...
  15. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    So how do those who disagree that life formed on its own argue with the science. If they disagree that the science shows life formed on its own. I guess the only thing I can think of is something like ID or Creationism. But then that is still regarded as bunk. So I guess there is no way to...
  16. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    I acknowledged that when it comes to proving that God created life theres no scientific test that can prove that. The evidence I was talking about isn't something you can put in a test tube and test it. Its testimonial. Its imparted by the spirit of God. Though the bible does say that all...
  17. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    What evidence shows that life formed on its own without a creator God. And if they can't what then. Does this prove it not true. Yes of course. The same with material science. It must concede that its evidence is just a material one and not ultimately the truth metaphysically.
  18. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    What sort of evidence do you want. Something that shows God is creator. Or something like that. I don't think there is any knock down evidence. In fact I know there is not. The only evidence that life did not come about by itself would be arguements for a creator God or agent. But if we can't...
  19. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    Another way of say 'Scientist claim life formed on its own'. Without any help from God. Its not as simple as that. So what happens if someone challenges that science doesn't prove life was not created. How would science even do that. Can they prove there was no God. How do you know the...
  20. stevevw

    Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

    I agree and thats why I am not arguing things from a scientific perspective. If I did I would concede. Give up and acknowledge the science is good at accounting for the physical causes. Case closed lol. Think about it from the worldview of someone who believes that life was created. Like I said...
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