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Thanks for the reply, I do appreciate it. That's awesome man, I am glad to hear you both are still together. Peace to you both bro.

Tetra, out of curiosity, how old were you when you and your wife got married? And how old are you now? I'm only asking because I saw that you mentioned your wife and yourself were virgins at marriage, and this is urban legend in this generation, unless you live in Utah or with the Amish, in my...

Redstang281, thanks for sharing that page, it was a great read. I think it hit what is actually the underlying issue behind a lot of these topics. It's all an attempt by Satan to drive men out of the Church, and make the remainder all effeminate. Unfortunately it seems like exactly that has...

This wasn't addressed to me, but I have noticed the same over the years. This goes back to the love-hate confusion that much of Christendom has over the issue of sex.

Cool, then we're on the same page as far as truth goes. Is it possible that a culture could be wrong about a reality? Is it possible that even a subjective experience, say for example, if a girl "feels" she gained or lost something via casual sex that her subjective experience might have no...

I can put a context on it, as an example, if you'd like.

Tetra, You know I was thinking for a minute about the cultural and perhaps even individual subjectivity of these things like virginity, etc., and considering what other people groups do and have done (particularly before Western influence) I'd have to agree with you, but there is somewhat of a...

I agree that Christendom has the sex topic mixed up, but I'm not a cultural relativist, at least not completely. I know that aboriginal tribes before the Western influence had sexual practices that we in the Western world would consider utter abominations, but that is indeed how they did it for...

Tetra, hmm, I think I get you. Well this might be silly to say, but I've always understood the phrase "losing a part of yourself" to be a figure of speech, not that some physical substance or object is literally being taken, as per that paper. But many of the things being referred to, such as...

Haha, well patience is a virtue. I am up for exchanging emails, you're going to have to private message me first through this because I guess I don't have enough post "likes" to activate the "Start a Conversation" feature for me yet.

Redstang281, I'm out brother. 26 pages, and it's the same arguments I've seen elsewhere. It was refreshing to have come across you, and EmethAlethia. Peace to you and yours.

Is that a serious question man? Lol. I think you're looking for an echo chamber, like many here seem to be doing. Hope you find what you're looking for.

For those interested, male microchimerism in women without sons. Notice that the prevalence is highest in women who got abortions. Can you figure out why? Male microchimerism in women without sons: quantitative assessment and correlation with pregnancy history. - PubMed - NCBI

Tetra, believe what you will. My analogy makes sense if you think of the old school women trying to preserve rather than lose their "purity" or "virtue".

Now that said, I think it is the job of the parents, and not a pastor and the classmates to be teaching this to other children.

It is indeed a shaming tactic, but there is some truth behind it. People will resist this, but men and women are not the same, we are not equal. If you do some research, the biggest indicator of whether a marriage is going to end in divorce or not is how many partners the FEMALE has had before...

2PhiloVoid, I agree we can't give ourselves moral allowance on the basis of the struggle. This is why I said I am not trying to justify it (in that reply I made). Instead, I was responding to your question with one way it is conceivable that inappropriate content could be helpful in one's walking uprightly in...

Calling my response "bull" isn't sufficient. I see the experience of guys I personally know, of when I was in the Army, and even my own experience on one hand, and on the other hand I see your empty claim that what I'm claiming is "bull". It'd be great if you could take some effort to be more...

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is a serious question, so I'll give you a serious response. I'm assuming you're a man, so if that is the case then you'd know how strong the male sex drive is. A lot of guys need a release regularly, and if they don't get this it...

Yeah, coming up with lists of possible negative consequences doesn't prove anything as far as whether the object/activity itself is evil. A lot of people's lives are being destroyed by getting married, here in the West these days, people even losing their lives over it when things go wrong. In...