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  1. RevelationTestament

    LDS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!

    You are missing the import of my reference to this scripture. It is not speaking of earthly marriage between a man and wives. It is a prophecy. Indeed it refers to the seven churches of Rev 2-4. That is "celestial marriage" as I am using the scripture for. And I disagree with you. It is very...
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    LDS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!

    Earthly marriage has always ended upon death. The typical marriage covenant is "until death do you part." Nothing Jesus said forbade that covenant extending. It is true angels are not married, but they remain messengers under the new covenant, and cannot be elohim. They cannot enter the house of...
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    LDS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!

    If you want to go there, where are your bishops and apostles? Was Ellen White an apostle? Her prophecies of Yeshua's return did not come to pass - twice. Yet, SDAs eat up all her words plagiarized from so many other Christians. Your Church has no bishops and no apostles, so those scriptures you...
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    LDS Do LDS believe that Jesus is the Father?

    I really don't know what you mean by this. You will have to be more succinct. Jesus did teach that He revealed the Father. Thus, He is the Revelator of the Father. I know He doesn't say He is the Father's legal agent, but in English parlance that is what He is given the things He says - that He...
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    LDS What the Mormon missionaries taught me...

    I will concede that GAs talk that way, but imho it is a poor choice of words. There is not one single scripture of the Church saying marriage is a "commandment." You'll note in that list: "Repent of our wrongdoings." Not getting married is not a wrongdoing - there is nothing to repent of. Again...
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    The spirit world - a history before history

    Hello there Anto9us ;) Good to see ya. Job 38 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or...
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    LDS Salvation as used in the scriptures does not mean physical resurrection alone

    That's true. Don't you understand Matthew and Revelation? All will be resurrected - both the wicked and the righteous. The difference is that the wicked get resurrected from hell. Those who die in Christ never go to hell, but are saved in paradise awaiting their resurrection. The sons of...
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    LDS What the Mormon missionaries taught me...

    It's not a commandment. It's a covenant. Not getting married is not a sin. You have a bad misunderstanding of LDS Christianity.
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    LDS Are the Two Natures of Jesus Denied by Mormons?

    The two natures of Christ are an errant doctrine. As an LDS Christian I personally deny them. Yeshua has one spiritual nature. LDS do not teach Christ had a "fallen human nature," which is probably why you didn't quote any such thing. As the only Begotten Son He was the only human born on this...
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    LDS Christmas Greetings to My LDS Friends

    No thanks really. I no longer believe in Christmas. Yeshua was not born then. You have been led astray by a false tradition of men. However, I will wish you a happy post Conception Day.
  11. RevelationTestament

    LDS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!

    No, He said in the resurrection they are not given in marriage. You cannot marry once you are resurrected. It does not mean a marriage covenant cannot continue.
  12. RevelationTestament

    LDS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!

    Celestial Marriage is the crowning achievement of the gospel. It does not conflict with the 3 basic tenets of the gospel cited by Paul in that chapter: 1. Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead 2. our Lord Jesus Christ gave himself for our sins, and 3. that he might...
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    LDS Do LDS believe that Jesus is the Father?

    The Son is the Father's legal agent or what I call the Revelator of the Father. As such He said things like "He who has seen me has seen the Father," because He said and did those things He had seen the Father do. As the Father resurrected so did He likewise. In Isaiah 9:6 we are told that we...
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    LDS Did the Mormon Jesus (aka Jehovah) lie?

    First of all you are wrong about His name. Yahweh is the result of combining the consonants of YHWH with the vowels of adonai. Yehovah or Yahowah are probably the closest transliterations of how it should be pronounced. And yes, Israel did worship the Son since the Father and Son share the same...
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    The real jesus

    Ah, I see we are bringing out the boxing gloves. That was not my statement. The claim was made that "we believe Christ," and I showed you do NOT. Baha'i reject His words, and therefore do not believe Him. Now you may "believe in Christ" in the sense that you believe He existed, but that is a...
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    The real jesus

    Evidence is not "proof" which is what you asked for. There is plenty of evidence. Why would I only rely upon a Hebrew dictionary when the Hebrews have lost even the meaning of YHWH, if they ever had it? And translate names like El Shaddai into "the Almighty God" in the Septuagint? I rely first...
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    The real jesus

    Are we giving up on my request? As an LDS Christian I do not believe in the inerrancy of the Bible as handed down from the state church and Catholic church. I believe it included non-inspired books and errant chapters - the latter mainly being 2 extra chapters for Daniel. I believe the Catholic...
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    The real jesus

    Um no it is not. I am merely pointing out the truth. They are not subject to proof other than what is shown in the scriptures concerning Him. I can cite the scriptures for you if you like...there really aren't that many scriptures which use Eloah. Elohim is used the most frequently. Elim is used...
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    The real jesus

    I didn't say it means rock but it refers to immovable force or power. Eloah in particular is used in the Tanakh in referring to the stone of Israel or the rock of our salvation. Look up the usage of Eloah, and you will find it connected to such usage. And Elohim is the plural of Eloah - not El...
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    The real jesus

    Then again, Baha'i do not believe the Bible. John 20:17 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that...