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    early church fathers and faith alone

    so John never wrote a commentary on Genesis?
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    early church fathers and faith alone

    I am wondering, this man said that John Chrysostom believed in faith alone! and provided quotes to back him up! the Cripplegate | for a new generation of non-conformists so i was wondering is he taking the quotes outta context and what would be the proper context that these quotes are to be...
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    early christians and salvation

    also check out what ive found on CARM T The skeptic might say, "But God knows for a fact who will be bad and good. Why allow the people going to hell to be born in the first place?" But, if this is the case and if God arranged it that no "bad" people were born, then we would all go to...
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    early christians and salvation

    i guess your right well even the athiest say that!
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    early christians and salvation

    i know but i guess i was a bit shocked at well the self-deception i guess it could be called
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    early christians and salvation

    yes but i actually tried to reason with that guy a few month ago and tried to tell him his quotes are out of context and this is wat ive got "The reformers language and hence protestant language since that time, delves deep into the ins and outs of forensic justification due to Roman...
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    early christians and salvation

    i have a question- alot of protestants seem to be just taking the quotes of early Christians out of context and saying they believed in salvation by faith alone like here What about Faith Alone and Protestants Before the Reformation? | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry can anyone help...
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    early christians and salvation

    I have a question alot of protestants seem to be just taking the quotes of early Christians out of context and saying they believed in salvation by faith alone like here What about Faith Alone and Protestants Before the Reformation? | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry can anyone help...
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    salvation according to the EO

    well to be fair thats what happens in alot of those megachurches..... with the pastors trying to be all "kewl"
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    salvation according to the EO

    that salvation is by faith alone, those lines constantly get tossed around by protestants
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    salvation according to the EO

    dont they seem to condradict the plan of salvation of the EO can you explain that for me?
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    salvation according to the EO

    oh and what about acts 16 with the jailer and john 3:16 what about those verses?
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    salvation according to the EO

    but this really annoying arguments that protestsants use is that oh "our religon is the only religon that does not require human works it must be from a divine scource!"
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    really baised translations of the bible

    yes i think thats what i found really wrong about it-presuppositions, forcing what you already believe in into James's letter
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    salvation according to the EO

    oh yeah and i cant forget James and his letters i mentioned in a previous post, about how Protestants seem to play mental gymnastics around check out their latest attempt If James contradicts Paul, then James also contradicted himself. | Defending. Contending. at any rate i feel that Orthodoxy...
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    salvation according to the EO

    yes lines like Ephesians 2:8-9, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."
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    salvation according to the EO

    i mean about the parts in Galatians and Ephesians that Protestants like to spout, how do the EO interpret those lines
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    salvation according to the EO

    so can anyone put the EO way of salvation in the most simple words possible and how do you guys reconcile some passages that seem to contradict your ideas of salvation?
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    really baised translations of the bible

    and here is another one..... If James contradicts Paul, then James also contradicted himself. | Defending. Contending. what do you think about these protestant's to explain it away....
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    really baised translations of the bible

    yes but the Greek for justified here is the same as the word Paul had used in Romans about how man is not justified by the works of the law and you take that passage to mean that you cant get saved by obeying Jewish law so why does Justified here in James mean something totally different .. the...