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Do you mean this in the sense that skipping church is not a sin. But if you mistakenly believe it to be a sin, and skip it anyway, then yes it is a sin? Or do you mean it in the relativistic sense, sins are only sinful if you personally believe them to be sins?

"What are all these people seeing at Mass? If you're not seeing it, you are missing something pretty amazing..." ~Chris Stefanick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fvX_LTK7Bk

After all, Christ did not leave us with a Bible, He left us with a Church guided by the Holy Spirit.

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell ya... Of course making same sex marriage more main stream, will also make gay parenting more main stream. Comparing a "loving" couple to an "unloving" one is comparing apples and oranges. You have to look at loving heterosexual parents vs. loving...

You cannot separate the two, as I have yet to seen a person argue that a gay couple should be able to marry, but then not be allowed to adopt or raise a child. Gay parenting is a consequence of gay marriage, therefor it is a valid secular argument against gay marriage. I believe my...

We know all to well the negative psychological effect of a child being fatherless or motherless. A child with 2 fathers is still motherless and a child with 2 mothers is still fatherless. A child's best chance at proper psychological development, statistically speaking is in a stable home...

Let me break it down for you. You are imposing your view of the Church on my theory and therefor not fully understanding it. So from the beginning: Me: 1) Christ establishes a Church. This Church is authoritative, has visible leadership and definitive teachings. 2) Those who abandon the...

So your argument against authority is that those who have abandoned authority are now disunited? Seems to help my case. [Edit] And don't act as if the Catholic Church was trying to keep the Bible out of the hands of the individual- if that is what you are trying to imply I am not sure but I...

The Church that Christ founded has not and will not pass away. The Church that Christ founded is authoritative. If your concept of the Church is that one is it even capable of authority? How so? What about my question? Where do they turn in that situation other than disunity.

Be specific. Two members this invisible Church of different theological backgrounds disagree about something essential in Scripture. Do you suggest they both just take turns telling each other " I have authority in Jesus Christ" " No I have authority in Jesus Christ"? Who do they go to? They are...

Me changing the subject? Did you even bother to read the first post of the thread? Its about the philosophy of where authority if found in the Catholic vs. Protestant philosophies and which philosophy provides sustainable authority. You keep changing the subject back to who is and who isn't a...

Maybe if I only ask one question, one of you will finally respond to it. How, specifically, does your concept of the invisible Church demonstrate any authority?

Okay, then I will ask you some follow ups. 1)Did Jesus or any of the prophets or Apostles teach us to pray for one another and/or ask others to pray for us? A)If not, then why do you do so? B)If so, then why does this not also apply to our fellow members of the Body...

I don't know how I can emphasize this any more than I already have. When I speak of visibility, I am not speaking of membership within the Church, but the authority of the institution itself. What I just finished replying to Albion also applies to your statement: The question that keeps...

Let's think about this: If your issue is that their is only one mediator between the Father and man, then one should not ask the intercession of fellow Christians on earth. If you believe asking a loved to pray for you is okay, then your issue is not really the one mediator thing, but a...

This is a poor characature of what Catholics actually believe, and I think you know that :) You know well that we pray directly to God as well (in fact much more often than the saints, honestly). But if I take your exact words and just replace one of them and make the same statement about your...

And again you are talking about membership. But that isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about authority. As far as the visible leadership of your local pastors, congregations, etc... One congregation doesn't accept the leadership, teachings, etc of another congregation or...

As far as original sin goes, this is a pretty good explanation where it is found biblically: We believe original sin is evidenced by the fallen nature of man. This is why a savior is necessary. We inherited sin through one man, Adam, and we are delivered from it through one man, Jesus Christ...

I'd go as far as to say every Catholic commits mortal sin, at some point, if not many times though out their life. This is why repentance and confession are so central to the Catholic faith. We all fail to live up to the Catholic faith. But not everyone is repenting, or even sees the need for...

Again we are speaking of the institution, not whether or not individuals within it are actually in communion. As I just replied to Albion, the Catholic Church has visible leadership, agreed upon authority, and definite teachings. These things are not present in the concept of the invisible church.