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why? who says those two are the only choices? you? lol, see above. sincerity does not equate to believing your interp. i'm still waiting for your admission of your own contradiction, shown in post 109.

oh...lol. You are the most accusatory SC student ever...even against your own....amazing. it is not theory that the actual number in the manuscripts is actually 666. YOUR theory changes it to 6,6,6. All Zadok gave was possibilities/places to look for pertinant info in the OT. And, as you did...

actually I never said that I do not believe his interp. I said that i wanted proof. but ya, it's 666 not 6,6,6. again, for the umpteenth time, that is your claim, not mine. I do not limit the possibilities of what 666 means to just those two choices as you do. and it is an easy thing to...

question everything! Most discussions here at this sub-forum, revolve around the timing of the rapture/gathering to Christ. Is the church here on earth for the end time events (I say of course we are), or are they removed from the earth, and in heaven for the end time events.

Doug, that guy on the video is wrong on most of his criticisms. he knows so little of what he preaches against, that its both commical and sad to folks that know Mr Murray's teachings.

So, i believe that there will be a world currency...no more USA dollars accepted, even in the USA. I agree that the mark is not the currency itself. But if one uses the currency, it shows that they are under Satan's kingdom, thus marked. IOW, the elect will not be doing ANY commerse then...

no, you did not. you gave an opinion. Had you proved it, i wouldn't ask you to prove it. I dont have to because i never brought that up...YOU did. that is another one of YOUR assumptions... YOU seem to limit the choices to only two possibilities....that is YOUR limitation, not mine. as I...

the first beast is a multiheaded political union...not an individual. Rev12, no beast mentioned by name, but the dragon. Rev13, 2 beasts; one political union, one individual. is Satan and his kingdom (political union) not my interpretation. how do you know WHEN the beast is in the...

It doesn't. The mark is NOT physical, however watchman2 is in error again, this time about what proves the mark is not physical. Rev16:1-2 proves nothing of the sort. he uses that prove word alot, but obviously it does not prove it. 1And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to...

Elijah did not die in the flesh back then, right. many believe that he is one of the two olive tree witnesses. so we might actually be seeing his death in rev11.

Doug...consider... 14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast ; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. the blue is...

Doug, the mark is symbolic, as seen in Ex13, Deut6 and Deut11. (mark between the eyes and in the right hand. it was not a physical mark then. and the mark was based off of remembering where we came from and who got us there. God. itis based off of who you worship, keeping the first...

prove it...i am sincere. YOU are the one using circular logic... I am a SC student for many years, and Iam not believing any man, if I think their theory does not line up withthe Word of God. in this case, your explanaition of vial one does not line up with Rev13 and its explanaition of...

I am sincere you are the one using circular argument. you say the 1st vial cant be when Satan is here, because of what you believe about 666 and the 6th vial. you also say the 1st seal is the 6th, and that the 5th and 6th trump and the 5th and 6th vial is his appearance seriously....from...

absolutely not the point. counting 665 prophetic events is YOUR understanding... I dont even know were that line of thought comes from. its ike u made it up. YOU say, 6th seal (or is it the first) 6th trump (and 5th right?) and 6th vial (and 5th s well) are about Satan. you teach 1st and...

not. you are either a liar or do not even know what you write. for now, i'll choose the latter. I will quote you. so, you say multiple things... you say first 4 are pre Satan. where does that leave the last 3? plus, i said i'd quote you saying 5th, as well as 6th. from post 109 of this thred...

it is your error. on one hand, you say Satan is not here till the 6th vial, and then u say 5th vial....double talk. he's here in vial one. now, i have no problem with the first 4 vials being poured on those with the mark, to get them to repent as you say. but let's be honest with the...

don't worry about it bro. we are not getting anywhere they worship God now. This is your flaw. incorrect. The mark is not able to be taken until Satan deals it out. See Rev13. that is when he actually makes them take the mark, regardless of your theory. their rapture belief is IMO what...

7000, not 200 mill.

same with God's biblical calendar.... What if the last feast ever, is His return, and that feast actually ends up realigning with the original date, i actually believe this to be.