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    Pretrib's Core Teaching Is A Fallacy

    Most everyone is already familiar with the core of the pretrib teaching, ie, that before tribulation begins on earth saints are "whisked" away to heaven, (God's Throne) thus being protected during this greatest time of troubles on earth. There have been many arguments refuting the pretrib...
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    Jerusalem IS NOT Babylon the Harlot

    I've noticed recently that there are a few threads and certain people suggesting that Jerusalem is the prophetic Babylon the harlot during the final end times, others don't suggest it but emphatically teach this as truth. Hopefully after reading this OP those that may be a bit confused will no...
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    In Refute To a Gathering Before the Man of Sin Is Revealed

    In Refute to a gathering before the Man of sin is revealed 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from...
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    The Prophecy of Isaiah 2:4

    All to often in this forum prophecies about doom and gloom are emphasized and talked about in different threads here.......and I'm obviously guilty of this also.........so for anyone thinking I'm pointing fingers here it's pointing at me first but all this prophecy leads up to a time that we...
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    Pretribulation Doctrine And The "Terrible" Two's

    Has anyone else noticed the pretrib doctrine and it's 2's for so many things...........? 1. 2 second comings 2. Or 2 parts / phases of a second coming 3. 2 first resurrections and this one gets me, because going to work I frequently see this bank and it's name is the Fifth Third...
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    The Pretribulation Error Petitio Pricipii

    petitio pricipii is the latin term for "begging the question" which means In a discussion or debate there is a main fact and a main question Main Fact: Christ will return Main Question: When? Before or after tribulation In this debate everyone, both pre and post trib concedes (agrees) that...
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    The Man of Sin and the False Prophet

    My premise is that the man of sin 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is...
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    Who Is This End Time BEAST that you speak of ?

    I'm not going to go into great detail here about the beast and it's identity, I want to view comments and views from all others on this one. One clear and concise point on the indentity of the beast. It comes from Nebuchadnezzar's dream and Daniel's interpretation of the dream. The account is...
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    A Few MAJOR Pretrib Contradictions

    There are a couple of pretrib teachings that contradict themselves, maybe some pretribber can explain why your own teachings are contradictory or is it only some pretribbers that believe these contradictions and they are not part of the basic teaching / doctrine? Contradiction...