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    Question

    The Jacobite Syrian Christian Church is the only one that is in recognized communion with the Syriac Orthodox Church.
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    Who Heads the OO Church?

    They share each others' dogma and as a consequence also share each others Sacraments. BTW, that number 6 is not as straightforward as maybe you were led to believe because the autocephalous Indian jurisdiction is excommunicated by its mother church, the Syriac Orthodox Church. So it's really...
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    Ethiopian Orthodox church

    I don't know how you got that idea. Perhaps you misunderstood the post. It was more of a criticism of other OO, if anything, so I don't understand how that post could have led you to that conclusion.
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    Ethiopian Orthodox church

    Sure, don't bother trying to hold your beliefs accountable to Patristic theology. ;)
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    Ethiopian Orthodox church

    Don't even bother worrying about it. Those statements are nonsense. No, they have not really treated the issue of the will, just as they shied away from the issue of Chalcedon. They decided just to focus on common interpretation of the Three Councils. Why? I think most likely because they...
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    Ethiopian Orthodox church

    The point of the example of Saint Severus is that the Bishops are liable to teaching heresy and when they do so they must be corrected even if by mere laity! That is if all of the Bishops are present. If not, then whether it was led by the Holy Spirit would be questionable. If 90% of Oriental...
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    Ethiopian Orthodox church

    God forbid! That's not how the Church works. There is no point in partaking of the ordinances of those outside the Church, even in emergency situations. And I can assure you that most EO Priests would never encourage anyone partake of the ordinances of a non-EO church. I can't understand why...
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    Ethiopian Orthodox church

    I don't agree. I think if we both finally admitted that both of us were perfectly orthodox in our confession all along (which I am not willing to do), then I think we would have to admit that the OO were schismatic. It would not have been right for us to have rejected Chalcedon if it had been...
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    Ethiopian Orthodox church

    And, IMO, some of what was illegitimate in the Antiochian tradition. Hehe. Pope Leo I is essentially one of the most despised figures in OOy, similar to the sort of venom I have been seeing against Saint Dioscoros in this thread. So you won't get any agreement from me on him.
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    Ethiopian Orthodox church

    Huh? Exactly what definition of ours did you first condemn? No, that's not what I am saying. I am saying that the key point of distinction in the schism was the rejection or acceptance of Chalcedon. And if Chalcedon was in fact perfectly loyally orthodox then we rejected it in vain and we are...
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    Ethiopian Orthodox church

    Hold on. Did you totally miss the error I was pointing out? Saint Dioscorus was not the Patriarch of Constantinople. Ever. He was the Patriarch of Alexandria. Like I said, you have no resources which show that Saint Dioscorus was identified by the bishops at Chalcedon as being in heresy. And...
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    Why should I become Catholic?

    Indeed. But if you are to suggest that the Roman communion is part of the Catholic Church rather than the whole of it or apart from it, you must notice that this is contrary to the sentiment I posted at the beginning of this particular thread of the discussion in reply #59. The Body of Christ...
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    John Shelby Spong: A Question

    Also, I think you might see more defections to the Universalists if they still consisted of Trinitarians.
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    John Shelby Spong: A Question

    While I agree that Spong cannot be understood to be a believer in most of the Creed, I must say that these groups do not even have perfect unity in their understanding of the Creed. For instance, I don't think most "Christians" understand correctly what it means for the Church to be One...
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    John Shelby Spong: A Question

    Perhaps according to his own understanding and sentiment. But for what I understand Jesus and the Church to be, Spong is rendered among the greatest of enemies. He holds an entirely different doctrine to the point that he doesn't even know who Jesus really is. That seems incredibly important...
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    John Shelby Spong: A Question

    Because relativizing the meaning of the Creed is so much better than denying it. :doh:
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    John Shelby Spong: A Question

    If you are meaning what it seems by the term "fundamentalist", I will glady wear the label, thank you.
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    John Shelby Spong: A Question

    How is that? Hmmmmm. I think I understand what you mean, but your actual conclusion I do not think is true. Yes, it is true that Christ being the Only-Begotten Son of God is the core doctrine upon which our salvation depends. However, the virgin birth is a necessary implication of this...