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  1. funyun

    Difference between knowing and experiencing?

    Sorry, I can't give an in-depth answer to your post at the moment. I can only give a few short responses. 1) Knowledge has to be justified in order to count as knowledge. This means some examples like what you are talking about are valid and some are not. 2) I don't find this argument, as a...
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    Determinism is bugging me big time :-(

    It's still a thing, it's just a conceptual thing, a purely informational thing, rather than a physical thing, as we usually think about it. I'm not sure just because something is hypothetical means it is necessarily unknown. Given certain defined conditions of that hypothetical, we can likely...
  3. funyun

    Difference between knowing and experiencing?

    Like I said, I'm not trying to dictate the vocab, I'm just letting you know. As long as I know what you mean and you know what I mean, there's no problem. But what is heat? What is fire? In what manner does fire "produce" heat? These were philosophical, even religious, questions until modern...
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    Difference between knowing and experiencing?

    I'm no theist, so I'm sure much of the depth of this is lost on me, but maybe you'll find this interesting as it applies to the above, Received: "What Schleiermacher calls 'Religion' and the Hegelians call 'Faith' is at the bottom nothing but the first immediate condition for everything-- the...
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    Difference between knowing and experiencing?

    Sorry for not responding to your posts yesterday, NotreDame, I was busy; first week back in school. :sigh: Firstly, I'd say, and this is just part of my nomenclature, that there is no such thing as "high degree of certainty." Certainty is all or nothing. You are either certain or not, and...
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    Difference between knowing and experiencing?

    Cheers :cool:
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    Difference between knowing and experiencing?

    Rambling is an admirable form of exegesis.
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    Difference between knowing and experiencing?

    Do you mean "what is"? As you might predict: that which is as it exists apart from our perception of it. I hate the term "noumenon" because I disagree with Kant's idealist metaphysical extrapolations, but I use thing-in-itself identically-- epistemologically, anyway. That's precisely my point...
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    Difference between knowing and experiencing?

    I think we can't prove they aren't illusory but that we should also doubt the ability of our sensations to give us accurate perceptions. I think it is possible to grasp a phenomenon in such a way that you in fact are grasping the thing-in-itself, but that you can never concurrently be aware that...
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    Difference between knowing and experiencing?

    How do we know that that relation is direct, and that it can be trusted? I for one don't trust my senses 100%, and the senses are that by which one experiences.
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    California doctors can't refuse treatment to gays on religious grounds, court rules

    It doesn't matter whether the people denied service were gay or black or anything. The debate is not about homophobia being the "last acceptable discrimination". The debate is about whether or not doctors have the right to deny service without being forced by the state. The doctor doesn't have...
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    California doctors can't refuse treatment to gays on religious grounds, court rules

    ...analogy? Umm, what? You made what appeared to me to be an argument from legality-- that because that law was on the books meant the law was just. I was pointing out that logical fallacy. Simply because the state of California deems x to be so does not invalidate my, or anyone's, view on the...
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    California doctors can't refuse treatment to gays on religious grounds, court rules

    I unflinchingly agree. But in my opinion, our opinion should not be codified to dictate the actions of others, no matter how stupid, ignorant, or backwards they may be.
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    California doctors can't refuse treatment to gays on religious grounds, court rules

    And child labor laws "carry no weight" in lots of third world countries. That doesn't make the lack of those laws just. Just because a law exists, or does not exist, does not necessarily entail that the situation resulting from that law, or lack thereof, is just. Should the Hippocratic Oath...
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    California doctors can't refuse treatment to gays on religious grounds, court rules

    Yes, it should extend to any business, unless they are receiving any kind of public funding whatsoever. So that discounts a lot of big corporations.
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    California doctors can't refuse treatment to gays on religious grounds, court rules

    I'm not the person to whom you were responding, but yes. Gay people should be allowed to marry, with absolutely every financial and social benefit heterosexual marriage imparts. And doctors in private practice should be allowed to deny non-emergency service to anyone they so choose, for any...
  17. funyun

    Supreme Court, Insemination, Doctors, and Homosexuals

    What tap dancing? I clarified. I may not be any great communicator but I believe my above post is in clear, easily-understood English. It's a simple and coherent opinion, though you may disagree with it. If you don't agree it is coherent, however, please let me know exactly what about it is not...
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    Supreme Court, Insemination, Doctors, and Homosexuals

    :doh: Washington, I've seen your posts all over this site before, and you're far too smart to ignore nuance in such a way as this. I was commenting on the ethicality of the doctor's decision, but I did not say he was ethically "ok"-- as in "he's a swell guy," in terms of my ethics (or my...