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I am getting tired of sarcastic and patronizing remarks. I have been open and frank and also honnest. Yet that is what I have recieved in return.

OK The Unionist Goverment discriminated against Nationalists I hope that has cleared up and now perhaps both you and John can get off you so called high horses.

What do you mean "reality is" Sorry? Am I liar!

I did not say that did I? How many more times to have to keep repeating myself? Until I bloody blue in the face no doubt? The Big House Unionist Goverment of the 1960s pre O'Niell failed everyone and did not take heed of what Carson said.... " let them see that the Catholic minority have...

Glad you picked up on that. Bill Craig was an interesting character alright and indeed represented a form of forward acting Unionism that is now dead. I disagree the Rev Martin Smyth is a gentleman and I won't hear slander about him. Having met him on numerous occasions and heard him preach I...

My point is taht people voted for them and what teh people want they get. Silent Majority of the mass disatisfaction of working class Protestants correct. Ask anyone who was about in them days during the early to late 1960s. Roman Catholics where not barred from working in H&W. A well known fact.

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What do you think about Bill Craig MP?

I will make clear my orignal point that it is me feverant belief that working class Protestants endured the same abject poverty as the RC counterpoints! that they could not be arsed supporting the border campaign. lol. My friend one only has to look at the ROI or indeed the Free State after...

poor economic opportunity, underepresentation in the judiciary and public sector and security forces etc, etc in the nationalist community What about the ones who point blank refused to join any part of the state of Northern Ireland as they did not recognise it? Or are they lumped into the same...

No. I would llike you first to clarify if you are referring to the my description of the situation of large parts of the (poorer) Nationalist community pre-1968 as laid out in post #27 as a "romantic vision". If so I would like you to tell me why you think that and why you think think the...

I will take all your points at once if I may. Simply you need to redifine between ideology and religion and futher to this you also need to define between working class Protestants and Middle to Upper class Protestants. It is not a simple case of the whole group being put into the same boat...

It is also the motto of the Royal Ulster Rifles and the Irish Guards. Do you view them as terrorists? As regards the Ulster Defence Association it was set up as a reaction to the actions of the PIRA. My view is that there is no need for such organisations in mordern Northern Ireland we are...

If you are interested in more DUP members' links with paramilitary organisations then try Google. I don't need google. I am aformer member of the DUP. So I know exactley what the Party line is on these things. I would expect nothing more. Have a look at the "Irish News" 26/7/2006 and the...

:doh: Oh I am well aware of these things but this is just one example. One example of West Belfast Cllr who eneded up getting shot by the INLA if I remember rightly? Who had been expelled from the party becaue of that sentance that you quoted! So your point is? It was seen that this man was...

Then you would also know that George Seawright was expelled from the DUP? Deeply involved?

1. Mandates are wonderfull things are they not? The DUP where voted in as the majority Unionist Party because the UUP had already shown that it was weak and divided. What other choice? Direct rule from Westminister. Regardless power sharing is the only way forward in Northern Ireland. 2. At the...

"Billy Mitchell explains the causes of the conflict better than anyone I've come across." Did you get that off the Progressive Unionist website per chance? "Yeah everything's fine now" (Echoes)Sorry that is to much of a genralistaion. Must I cite sources of continual secterian abuse? "I think...

Sources?

Thank you for that. I blame that fat git Steven Nolan on the radio. It was he that said Univeristy of England.