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My dear friends ... Non-Mormon Christians, Christian Mormons, Non-Christian Mormons, and all others. This is my last post. Thank you for the privilege of helping me develop this thread. It started as a place for non-Mormons to ask questions of a Mormon ... it turned into a Mormon asking...

Then, gort, I stand confounded!

Certaintly! But you joined us late ... you may not know I have left the Mormon Church while trying to work things out on this very thread. I will tell you what I know, based on more than 30 years in the church; but I left the church less than 2 months ago and am about to face...

I believe in grace as the Savior and his apostle taught it in the New Testament. Now that you feel I am "harping" about the subject, I have nothing further to say to you about it.

MamaZ, each of the scriptures I have quoted are in context. The cry that things "are taken out of context" is a lazy way of not being able to directly deal with the scripture itself that I cited. Please identify one statement I made that is not true about grace, as I have quoted from the...

Sorry, LivingLifeHisWay, I didn't mean to ignore your previous response. I did read it, and I liked what I read, but I decided I wanted to share a message of warning with those who abuse the notion of grace. I don't believe you do. Again, my apologies for not responding directly to your find...

You and A New Dawn got me "real good" re "antinomianism." Don't find the word in the scriptures, so I don't care to know what you mean. I pray, Gort, you are not found ignorant of what Grace really means at the last day.

I am not a judge. I am concerned, however, about those who hide behind the claim of grace, which will find them naked in the end.

O, all ye Christians who claim or imply that you will be judged sheep, and not goats, simply by the "grace" you have purported to receive ... PLEASE, PLEASE, READ THE SAVIOR'S WARNING TO THE GOATS IN MATT. 25 AND UNDERSTAND HIS WARNING, LINE BY LINE. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE "GRACE" AS YOUR...

Hi, MamaZ. Thank you for your amazing post! Yes, the Gospel of Christ is LOVE ... or, as the apostle Paul said, "charity." As I understand Paul's words about charity in 1 Cor. 13, and as I understand John's words in his letters, if we say we are Christian but have not charity, we are...

Yes, my friend, Skylark, your post was centered on what it means to live the gospel of Christ because you seek to live the gospel of Christ by yielding to the Holy Spirit. I take the position that anyone who centers his or her life on Christ and his teachings in this way will be one of he...

Hi, Skylark! Glad to hear from you again. You wrote, "As a follower of Christ I am to love even "the least" of my neighbors, and with God's help I try to do so." Yes, yes ... that's the sheep in you, my friend. I realize my grace-filled Christian friends want to keep talking about grace...

Thanks for your response, LivingHisWay. Welcome to the discussion. So you agree that the Golden Rule is God's standard for the world, correct? That he expects us to treat one another this way? That by treating one another this way we are "living his gospel"? That it is important all...

You've given me all you're willing to give me on Matt. 25 and 7 apparently, A New Dawn. Let me ask others what they're willing to give me. I'll not ask you again. Also, I think you read too much into my "alive in Christ" point. Beware, also, that I use dramatic license quite liberally...

It truly saddens my heart that, after many days, I could not find one non-Mormon Christian or one non-Christian Mormon or one Christian Mormon who was willing to take me line by line through the Savior's words in Matt. 25, above, concerning what he meant by who the "goats" will be at his Coming...

Gort, sorry but I may have left you with the wrong impression based on what you have quoted me above...there's a typo in "you claim to have answered the best you can, and that is all I can expect of a person ... to answer with what little of Christ that is within them." I meant "light of...

Gort, you wrote, "Then tell us why Christ did'nt know the Goats, please. Unless your answer is something other than "they did'nt do enough", I should like to hear your reasoning. Otherwise, you may keep silent on the matter." I am seeking others' answers about the goats, gort. I am not...

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The law of Moses is alive and well in the Mormon Church. If any man has a broken heart and contrite spirit, that is the man (or woman) in whom the law of Moses has been fulfilled, and they are free of the law. But where is that man (or woman)? Who here (including myself) truly have a broken...

OH, YE SAVED AND UNSAVED MORMONS ... MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU. I have been privileged to address my non-Mormon, Saved Christian Friends, and put them under the test the Savior set in Matt. 25 and 7 (please see the posts above). And now I ask you ... What makes you so sure you are not a GOAT...