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Thanks for your response. First of all, I want you to understand that I belive what the verse says that you quoted: Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. Without God's grace...

I was with you until you said we are saved by faith alone. Produce the Scripture that says we are saved by faith ALONE. I promise you cannot find one. If you are really interested in what the Bible says, instead of what you feel or think, please look back at my previous posts including the chart...

No body is performing anything. They are just following the commands of God. As I said, God is doing all the work. What happens to us under the water and when we are raised up is not dependant on the person aiding you in and out of the water. No words even have to be spoken. As long as the...

Dave, I am far from being Oneness Pentecostal. I do not belive that Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There is a major problem with the idea you are trying to portray with one baptism being 3 different baptism from Eph. 4. Notice the verses: Ephesians 4:4 There is one body and one...

How can baptism put man in control of salvation? Jesus commanded it and we are to submit to it. Your "Pastor" has nothing to do with what happens to you when your are baptized. The only purpose for someone baptzing you is to help you under the water and help pull you out. What happens to you at...

Yes. If God's Word says that baptism is the point of salvation when our sins are forgiven and we choose not obey Him then we will not go to heaven. God takes His commands seriously. Think about Nadab and Abihu: Leviticus 10:1 Then Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, each took his censer and...

That is creative, but wrong at least from what the Bible teaches me. The Hebrew writer is not teaching that there is more than one baptism that saves, but that the doctrine or teachings of baptisms should be understood. In other words, by now they should understand, that John's baptism is no...

I looked on the web for the defination of a cessionalist, but could not find one. Could you give me definition please. Whatever you are accusing me does not really matter because my doctrine as you have stated in not my own, it comes from the Bible. The verse you gave proves nothing. I belive...

Yes. By the way, wine is grape juice. Sometimes it fermented or unfermented.

Thanks for clarifying what you meant, but the way you originly had it worded seemed like you were contridicting yourself because I did not know you were talking about confessing your sins as opposed to confessing Jesus as Lord. You still need to answer the question about faith being a work.

You have not added anything new, but you have contridictied yourself and you have not dealt with any my points, nor have you dealt with what James said about works. In your post you have said that confessing is a work and that works cannot save you, then you say that you must confess Jesus to...

No one has said that baptism saves you by itself. It is one part, that is no greater or less than what God has said we must do to be saved. Of course no one has been baptized first and then belived. (Well, I take that back. Those who teach children are born in sin and baptism them as babes would...

Once again you have done nothing to change the grammar of those verses. Also you fail to understand the difference between the outpouring of the Holy Spirit and the gift of the Holy Spirit. Every person that is baptized does receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, but not the outpouring of the Holy...

Eph. 2:8-9 does not say we are saved by faith ALONE. In fact the only time you will find faith only mentioned is when contradicts what you trying to say: James 2:24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. You fail to understand that there are works of merit and...

I will answer C. Davis post later even though I have already dealt with most of what he has presented in my previous posts. I am going to give you 3 verses from Jesus that prove that we must be baptized to be saved and the baptism that does this is water baptism. Mark 16:16 "He who...

Yes, the word baptism does not always mean water baptism. Besides HS baptism it also used to to refer to being baptized in to suffering. We must look at the context to figure out what kind of baptism is being talked about. Will you at least agree with me that baptism is neccessary to be saved...

You keep wanting to go all the way back to verse 15, but you cannot do that and be grammatically correct. They in Acts 2:1 refers back to the apostles in Acts 1:26. You need to remember that in the orignal text there is no chapter and verses and there is no divison between our 1:26 and 2:1. You...

Did you even read my post? I showed you how it is gramatically imposible for all 120 to have been baptized with the Holy Spirit. Did you disprove that by your comment? Absoultly not. Just saying something is true does not make it true. I have given you proof from the Scriptures and from...

To prove that only the apostles received the baptism of the Holy Spirit can be seen in following short aricle: The apostles, and the apostles alone, received Holy Spirit baptism on the day of Pentecost. Shortly before the Lord ascended back to heaven, he promised the apostles that "... ye...

He is not establishing new bondaries, he is simply telling you everything the Scriputes say that save instead of trying to limit it to confession like you have. None of the Scriptures you quoted stays that you are saved by faith alone or confession alone they just say they save you. 1 pet 3:21...