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Israel is a state of mind for the people of Israel. It is the same as heaven is for Catholics but not all Catholics are in heaven.

But I am. We have our own lineage to Adam as declared in Luke 3:38. Luke is the onmiscient perspective and Matthew is the Judaic point of view. Indeed we are the grafted branches but through Jesus we go right to Adam. Apart from this we still love the Jews but do not owe any...

What if you are a Catholic? :confused:

. . . and who needs war when you have love!!!!!!!!!!! :P

Some people would argue that the above is evidence that the Jews slanted the 'good book' in their favor so they would have followers of Jesus brown-nose them into heaven.  

Don't change it Noa because I like your name with the the play on words with "naos" and since you write from your heart the name Noa suits you extremely well. That was my first impression already when I read your first post.

I am actually a Catholic and many would call me a heretic. It is less important where I go to Church because Christians in the manner of Jesus of Nazareth leave their church and follow the "son of man [who] has no place to lie his/her head." This really is about the...

Well Jews are believers and so are Greeks and so are all those who are called to be Jew by adoption of the OT. Many of these soon became known as Catholics.   Online at 5.45 AM?

No, you are correct, but we Catholics have this eclectic interpetation wherein the saved are set free from the law and therefore also from the bondage  to slavery and sin. They get that from Gal. 5:1-4 wherein it may be read that it was for liberty that Christ freed us and...

Because, lambslove, in Judaism the New Jerusalem is a metaphysical concept wherein the old and the new have become one in the land of Israel. Isreal cannot be a nation because just as we are lost until we are found so must a Jew be without a homeland (lost), until he is...

Hello alida, (nice name BTW and please know that my soul is not for sale). Hmmmm, you surprised me and I would have never believed that a level headed Dutch girl (?) would write something like that.   Indeed, you must be born again and have...

But Alida, we're not playing bingo here and you cannot consciously accept or reject Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and it does not matter here if you are Jew or Catholic or protestant because if it did matter this rule could not apply to everyone on the face of the earth! It...

Noa I like your spirit and could not resist. Sorry if I surprised you. In the end heaven is for Christians only and I can assure you that it is available to Jews, who also happen to be my favorite people because I love their tradition and their faithfulness. I am...

But Noa, when Jews accept Yeshua they become Christians and will enter heaven as Christians. Does this not mean that there will be no Jews in heaven but only Christians?  

Hi Franklin, I had hoped that your post was an invitation to venture into the heaven and hell thing but I do not wish to lead you there. The book of Revelation deals with heaven and hell and please take a good look at Rev. 14 where the first beast comes out of the [celestial] sea while the...

Good point, and it will be the best time of our life unless we are called but not chosen (based on "many are called but few are chosen)."

No, sorry aforechrist 33, salvation can only come about through the conviction of sin. We are baptised into the fellowship of believers and within this fellowship are we exposed to the Law and it is while we serve under the Law that can we be convicted of sin for the salvation of...

I agree and there is no condemnation if not saved (that is, if they are not under the conviction of the law).

[/B] Definition of sin is important here because all is created in sin and since all of creation is good, sin is good. But I know what you mean. The law was given to Moses not to stop sin but to convict man of sin. [/B] That is not possible because the cross of eternal salvation is...

Could it be that the first death is the death of our ego consciousness after which time we become eternal and eternity ends with our second death (which is the death of our corporeal body)?