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Faith is a circle. We believe certain things, from our upbringing and environment. As we get older things confirm or counterdict those assumptions. Ultimately it requires an outside influence to change the basic beliefs. Faith is a characteristic that we all exihibit. The important bit is...

Hello BZ! My thoughts on faith are complex (as usual). I would define faith on multiple levels. I would start with the most basic one, and that is assumption. We have faith that the chair we sit on will not collapse when we sit on it. We have faith in gravity and so on. This level of faith...

Dear Mr important river, Yes I believe those assumptions are valid. The 'endom' part that associates Christ with a particular nation or plot of land is a contrivance. I think that His realm is beyond and outside of our domain, so it is not strictly proper in my mind to use that term. I...

God has revealed specifically that you must have faith to please Him. If you are not for Him you are against Him. I can only make a logical case for those outside the explicit boundaries. Not a specific scriptural one. And often supra-logical considerations change the rules. So, I can not...

Yeah I often find that we don't really appreciate the change that took place. If we put ourselves in the mindset of the Jews before Christ, the expectation and longing is very prevalent. They were very cognizant of their separation. The joy of His presence that we have today, and being accepted...

[/size] Well, faith comes from hearing. So if they don't hear they don't have faith. With out faith it is impossible to please God. Which is pretty much the opposite of what you are trying to say. all can = many many can't = all Context is more important than dictionary meaning. All is...

Dear Mr river, Ok, I will just hit this quick since it is going so far afield of our discussion. I am not strictly speaking a protestant in the classic definition. You should know I am not ortho enough for that...;) So, assumption #1 God preserves what He wants for us to know. Assumption...

[/size] No doubt I worded that poorly. This is what I was trying to form into an answer to you: [/font] [size=3] Well, actually we all deserve wrath. By nature we are children of wrath and have also earned it with all we do. None are righteous and none seek after God. So the...

Well if you mean some unrevealed means of having the blood applied besides hearing the gospel, I haven't heard of it. God has revealed the one means of salvation and that is calling upon Him via the gospel, if there are exceptions they haven't been codified. You must be born again. I am not...

Men are fallable, the bible is not. Traditions of men are fallable, the written word is not. Having many disagree is more often a commendation than critique, but is still not a criteria for truth. So, throwing tradition and fallable men aside, we can move on. Ok, here are your points: 1)...

Well, without the gospel there is no salvation...

We each have the responsibility to determine what the scriptures say. Why do you make this a personal attack? The accusation that Jesus was a false prophet comes often, using the very hermeneutical principals that futurists use. C. S. Lewis is one of the bolder of the bunch and actually comes...

This is really the meat of the argument. The author of Hebrews addresses the New Jerusalem point. Notice that he specifically contrasts the ability to touch the old covenant with the reality that we have come to in the new covenant. Mount Zion, the city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem and...

So you think that we can't be real if God is really in control. You have granted earlier that there is not any difference (you said it isn't any better) if God 'just' controls all the circumstances compared to God actually controlling thoughts and actions. I really don't see any difference...

I think we are getting someplace now! Read the two underlined portions together. As for the bolded part of your comments, I have tried to explain my thought on this. I believe that we are free to choose, but it is contingent, dependant freedom. Our freedom is part of God's plan. Since God is...

Sure, I don't think I would argue with that. My whole point here is that God rejected Esau based soley on His purposes and not any choice or act by Esau. Specifically the line of salvation or inheritence did not have anything to do with the choice or action of the recipients. God did it this way...

Romans 9 specifically points out that God chose before Esau acted. 9:11 even before they were born or had done anything good or bad (so that God’s purpose in election would stand, not by works but by his calling)

Those are quite the accusations. You have a right to believe that you are right. If you are so sure that you view is right then go ahead and show me. I would love to look at and address any scripture that you believe contradicts Romans 9. I am not sure which verses you think I am carving up...