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    Kent Hovind vs. Einstein

    Consider this: Hovind, in his bankruptcy trial, stated under oath that he owned no property. In his arrest for assault, he stated that the apartment was in a house that was his property, and that he had the right to expel the occupants in the manner he chose to exercise that day. In my...
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    Survival of the fittest

    'Fittest' doesn't necessarily mean biggest, strongest or bulletproof. Survival doesn't always require the ability to benchpress your own weight. 'Evolutionary advantage' does suggest the ability to live long enough to pass on genes, and promote the survival of offspring...
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    Should we give up on Creationism as a Science?

    In school? That shouldn't be....even if the student starts it, unless it's a comparitive religion class, or maybe history.... My take is that the Bible isn't a scientific book. It doesn't belong in a science class, for or against. I'd suspect the teacher trying to disprove the bible is...
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    A new song...just for giggles.

    Gracious? Dunno. Most of the ones here aren't as nihlistically militant as some others i've seen. Give it a whirl...
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    A new song...just for giggles.

    We've Common Ancestry With Actions! To the tune of "Great Big Gobs of Greasy, Grimy Gopher Guts" I may never swing through the tropic trees, Swim in Antarctic seas, Make honey with the bees. I may never be as green as garden peas, But we've common ancestry. Yes, sir! Oh, we've...
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    Lies for Christ?

    Doesn't 1 John say somewhere that christians are incapable of committing sin?
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    The Two Differences

    would you say that it takes no work to live by the commandments? Just believe in God and obey the laws?
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    The Two Differences

    I think you're confusing terms....I don't think 'good works' isjust effort, is it? And the effort for enlightenment is rather self-interested. I thought the works/faith thing was faith in God, and works for the benefit of fellow man...
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    The Two Differences

    Um, the triple rede? It doesn't require works, but warns of consequence of action. The purpose of living, in many religions that promote reincarnation, is to learn. Enlightenment is the goal, 'works' is just something you do. Those that have achieved buddhahood may stick around, to teach...
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    Noah and those pesky koala bears...

    yes, fresh water for forty days....and for the rest of the trip? You do realize it was a year, right? If they had to store water for the whole trip, it would cut down on the space available for food or animals. A year's worth of food and water for the elephants alone would take substantial...
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    Common Ancestor or Common Designer?

    Both positions use the same evidence, that current life forms share characteristics, and come to different conclusions. The only way to 'attack' the idea of a common designer is to question his logic. If we were the most bestest and beloved creation, why are squid's eyes better designed...
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    Data that confirms creationism

    It's not just atheists that target it, but heresologists have held it to be heresy. To suggest that you should believe in a God that may not exist because it is the best bet? To entertain the idea that millions of christians believe in a non-existant deity? Not a terribly faith-holding view...
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    Data that confirms creationism

    LOL, that one i really like. Almost as much as Calvin and Hobbes: http://www.hexfiles.multiservers.com/pix/pascal.jpg
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    Noah and those pesky koala bears...

    Did you really wanna post this, or did the devil make you do it? If so, maybe you should have floated the idea around your home before posting it. You wanna be careful about barge-ing into a discussion of the Ark. You could cause a big row. People will be lining up in pairs to refute your...
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    11th commandment?

    it's not an implication, it's implicit...that's why they're called commandments. But how universal a command can it be if it contradicts another universal command? That's my point. Even if it were in commandment form, it wouldn't matter a bit. People would still find justification and...
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    what is a religion?

    A belief in money provides moral standards? I'd say it is a collection of beliefs about supernatural things, esp. a deity. The non-theistic beliefs strike me more as philosophy than religion, but that's just a line i draw. Moral standards, codes of ethics, litany, scripture, collection...
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    11th commandment?

    Um, have you READ the bible? How many times do Heroes and Heroines of the bible kill? In God's name, or at God's behest? Or how often does God himself do the killing? If there is sufficient justification, killing seems to be okay. The other commandment, for example, about not letting...
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    how does people worship satan in their churches(do not move this thread)

    Which Satanists do you mean? The spoiled brat version, taking xianity, reversing it in the black mass mentioned before? Where they are actually operating within the xian theology, but directing their prayers to the One that Answers with 'Yes.'? Or the pagans who worship a masculine deity...
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    Survival of the fittest

    The God of the Bible is definately fond of a selection process, but it's more 'survival of the chosen' than the fittest. The 'fittest' army would not need divine assistance for a victory. :D
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    Ramifications of Cloning

    If i had perfect cloning technology, my shopping list would include: *A thermos full of bone marrow, to make an endless uncontaminated blood supply that matches mine in all respects. Probably could be kept like sourdough starter, with a trickle production until needed. *A few packs of...