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evolutionary development of the Venus Fly trap..why does it eat insects when it can survive like other plats..why no musular development..since Evo is so logical i'm sure you guys can come up with something

so can you explain how come the US dept of Education doesn't shut down LLU since they don't teach Evolution BUT DO GRANT degrees?.. Since your a history "expert" can you support your claim about Heaven State or is this another evo story created to mock Christianity..by the way you do know that...

Testability via experimentation..either way neither evolution or creationism qualify..your point is what again?

vance..judge, jury and executioner..sorry pal but you can't even have the US Dept of Education agree with you..they recognize that degrees from LLU are valid even though they DON"T TEACH EVOLUTION..HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND VANCE?..We all have Agendas..look even the Mars project is based on...

quit dodging the issue vance..there are figurative and literal applications when appropriate..the blood of the lamb.. is figurative but literal as in Exodus...read what Luke was trying to say that these were written so you would believe in Jesus..suppose I was trying to convince you of a persons...

Vance you are kidding?..look at how the Evos are fighting a sticker ..a sticker that says evolution is a theory..and you say that is how science works..you don't see the ACLU suing Von Danniken about his book Chariots of the Gods do you?..but they will sue a creationist river guide that knows...

ok then lets just say that David was not related to Jesus..also lets also ignore that part of the Gospels..better yet lets make everything figurative..feel better vance?..lets also call this open forums not Christian since the gospel message is really figurative anyway now its literal..Vance...

liberal Christian?..whats that?

Do you not read the Genealogy in the Gospels..those were written with the intent to show literal, figures..how do you explain seeing legitimacy when a fictional character is thrown in..imagine if i said my fathers father was Paul Bunyan..would that lose any credibility...Vance you are arguing...

Yes You're wrong.. the so called movement was opened up when the S Court allowed for intellectual discussions regarding evolution so long as it stayed within the frame of scientific arguments..besides Rick Santorum and many of the evangelicals are beginning to challenge the stranglehold of the...

LOL..next time say this: "certainly by every scientist I've heard of with a degree from an acredited university ...that also happen to agree with my way of thinking"..hahaha you guys love to make these claims ..too bad even the US Dept of Education doesn't agree with you..If I were you I'd get...

so fill me in on your approach then?..how do you explain many of the claims that Jesus and Paul make?..what commentaries do you use?..The Bible doesn't say to question everything..you do know that..it says this "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed...

and the significance of this is what?

Is this a bad thing?..are we not commanded to study and question everything like the Bereans? Question for you, what do you do to arrive at whats figurative and whats literal?

ok whats your spin?..I go by what Paul and whats said in the NT

Most of the scientists that you quote learned what in school?..that evolution is true and supported..Do we have a basis in seeing such a parallel where people are taught only one position and many accept this way of thinking?..yes if you asked most Communists if their way was the best way..most...

Vance get a book by Henry Morris called the Long War against God and you'll see that there is a basis against God embedded in the evolutionary movement. as for the book, its not that important in the scheme of what the "fathers" thought, my belief in the Bible will not change.

DODGEBALL.. VANCE..you asked this: "If evolution were so poorly supported, there WOULD be non-religious scientists who reject it as well. I have never heard of one. i provide you NAMES Vance and good old Vanny criticizes DI? Vance doo you even know any of these scientists and their religious...

how so..he called them by name..Jesus said just like the days of Noah..but Jesus expounds and says that the people were buying and selling and living their lives..now why the need to bring up Noah if it never happened..why not just say God will come back like today..no need to bring up Noah?why...

hmm sorry i thought that maybe this initial stmt made me belive that: "I thought this deserved a deeper response." like i said 1 stmt was all you needed