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The school of thought of the theosis came out of the Alexandrian school of the fathers. We can see this teaching in the works of St. Clement, particularly "Stromateis" and "Paedagogus". Works showing strong Platonian influence. There were also similar statements of "man becoming God" by St...

I am a big fan of Wesley and have read many of his sermons. I would think, since you mentioned it that he did have teachings very similar to St. Clement. He does fall short of the teaching of some of the fathers who taught that in the sanctification process at some point the diffence between the...

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I will turn 55 on the 20th. I think that Protestants and Catholics often talk past each other. Perhaps that is what happened here. They are both apostolic Churches started by Jesus. I think the scholarship among Catholics is much greater in this area and the approach is certainly...

Cristoiglesia's commentary in bold: That's your answer? The plain statement of the text says different. There's no reason to think that the verse is speaking of two separate forms of traditions. I am not exactly sure what is the point you are trying to make here but St. Paul is saying that...

[/SIZE] I do not believe that the cessation of state persecution of the Church is a bad thing. It was not a bad thing for those that converted to Christianity during this time as well. One could argue that the Church would not have survived had it not been for Constantines conversion...

There is no reason to think differently. the Church never imagined that there would be those that would only accept those parts of Traditions that are in writing. As she said before we can know how the early Church thought about these things and practiced by reading the early fathers. On this...

As I said before I would have to research how far back the belief in Gehenna goes in Rabbinical Tradition but I know that it is an ancient belief, likely going back to Moses. I can not agree that all Tradition was condemned by Christ and I doubt that you do either. Traditions that the...

We are in substantial agreement here. I believe that purgatory is highly likely and I believe that if there is no purgatory that heaven may well be empty for all eternity.(hyperbole for emphasis) The only theology that i know of that believes in an earthly sanctification was the teaching of...

"The afterlife and olam haba (the world to come) Judaism concentrates on the importance of this world, the fact is that all of classical Judaism does posit an afterlife. The Jewish tradition affirms that the human soul is immortal, and thus in some way survives the physical death of the...

Gene you should know that regardless of what website I use to describe Gehenna that it is almost identical to the Catholic Purgatory. The only significant difference is that Gehenna only lasts for a year for purification before entering Eden while the Catholic believe does not give a time limit...

26 For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come. 27 Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man prove...

Gehenna is fairly well defined in rabbinic literature. It is sometimes translated as "hell", but Jews must take note that the Christian version of hell is different from the Jewish view of Gehenna. Some Christians believe that hell is an abode of eternal torment where sinners go, and is also for...

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I agree with you. there were certainly some reforms necessary in the Church and they occurred in the counter Reformation. I believe that Luther brought up some good questions that needed to be discussed openly and lovingly within the Church but Luther approached the whole thing wrong. He may...

Again, a good question witha very long answer. That would be a good topic to discuss as well. You are very creative today. In Christ Fr. Joseph:crossrc:

Actually, this may be a much deeper question than you realize. Sorry, I can not give a quick answer but would be a good topic for another thread. Good questions, but can not be answered with even a few paragraphs. In Christ Fr. Joseph

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