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LOL!!!! That is hilarious. Yours is the ultimate demonstration of the point you are attempting (and failing) to refute. ^_^ What you're not telling is the impact that the influence of your parents, youth pastor, and others in your life had on your ultimate determination to embrace this line...

One might assume that "Truth" is objective and absolute, but there is no means within the possession of human epistemology to either demonstrate it nor appropriate it to the service of thinking and being. The "Truth" of God can only be apprehended by the trans-rational, trans-verifiable...

Yes, this is in fact what we see time and again. Everyone thinks that "now" they've come into the truth because they've aligned themselves with this or that theological camp, or because they've now been enlightened to read the Scriptures in the "right" or "objective" way. But it's all...

I don't think it has anything to do with losing salvation. Far too many individual's minds are locked into the small categories of Reformed and Arminian theology. Surely it is possible to read the Scriptures apart from such...

Here we go again... :doh: I thought we were making progress in realigning your epistemology, but apparently not. Oh well :)

As expected, we find that the philosophical presuppositions underlying Reformed theology yet again bring about an interpretation that is circular and self-justifying: Notice how the issues of the passage are easily wiped away because of the lack of specificity on the biblical author's part to...

Probably all are.

Yes, I am sorry I can't be of more help--there's little I desire more than to see Reformed theology eradicated from Christian thinking. However, I've been on these boards a long time. I've seen Scripture after Scripture given to Calvinists, and I myself have provided more than reasonable...

The real difficult is not really about the possible meanings of the word within all possible contexts of the ancient language. Rather, it has everything to do with the context in which the word was used. For example, in the interest of discussion let's assume that "world" here carries the...

LoL. "James White" and "exegetical force" are not two phrases I would think ever belong together. Perhaps if the "o" in "force" were replaced with an earlier vowel...

And my point is proven.

You're not going to find any Scriptures to disprove Calvinist ideas regarding eternal salvation, for Reformed theology--like all theologies--has very specific philosophical assumptions which form the foundation for its methodology in interpreting the Scriptures. That is, you can quote...

LoL, it'll pay off one of these days, I just know it!

I'm in it for the arguments and the chicks.

Yes, and you with me. And moreover, this is the obvious thing that I have been telling you all along. At least one thing has sunk in :)

The term "before creation" is a misnomer. Philosophically, the notion of "before" creation is absurd, for the conception of chronology is only meaningful within the domain of that which is not eternal. So then, we cannot in any intelligible way speak of that which is "before" creation. In...

And Calvinists are pantheists in the end. A true Calvinist is a conscious pantheist who has accepted their fate.

Most people have bad theology, but the Reformed are the most egregious examples :) Ok, not the most egregious. But pretty blatant...

Oh, right, how silly of me. It was so that God could be glorified through their apostasy (since God wouldn't have otherwise been glorified through any other means). Brilliant [not].

Your post doesn't really provide any understanding about this passage, other than the fact that the individuals mentioned in the passage are "not the elect." So now that you've enlightened us to the objective truth about who this passage is isn't about (which itself clearly uncovers your...