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Who would I be deceived by? Anyway, science does not claim absolute certainty about the universe. It only goes by our current data. And right now, data relating to biology points to evolution. Yet it is you, the Creationists, whom have yet to produce any evidence for your explanation.

I guess the natural process of collision between astronomical bodies means nothing to her horoscope. People are stupid, especially astrologers.

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I never said Natural Selection was random, I said it was "completely non-random". But what do you mean about mutations not being random in the normal sense? Although not new to science, I'm somewhat new to the advanced workings of evolution, so any information would be helpful. Thanks.

<_< I was talking about biology. :P

Bah. I are confused. :scratch: It sounded like he was arguing against it and saying it was just "random chance", which it is not. This is what I get for being somewhat new to evolutionary biology.

Ah... wait. So he's arguing for Intelligent Design of some sort?

I'm not quite sure if you're arguing against evolution. But since when is evolution just random chance? The only thing random about evolution are the mutations that occur. Natural selection is completely non-random.

"In hox signo vinces."

So animals being able to sense something is somehow metaphysical? I think you're overanalyzing. And if I'm not mistaken, "Ballam's Donkey" is just a story, right? Stories do me no good. I also wasn't aware that animals were scientists, let alone metaphysical scientists.

The problem with that is, there aren't any demons or monsters in my closet. The never was and there never will be any. I was a child with a wild imagination, and watching horror movies didn't help any. I still have that imagination, but I know how discern between something that is real or...

Listen dad, I used to think there were monsters in my closet at night... but then I grew up. No one knows there is a spiritual world, it's there if they want it to be. But no, go right ahead and rant on and on about flying people, talking animals, and strange plants in the make-believe fantasy...

There is no study of the "spiritual laws". Ergo, no word.

Spirycists? Making up words again I see.

As do I. But we must prepare ourselves for the invasion, brother! Repent! Go! Grab ye tinfoil helmet and prepare ye-self for the invasion force from planet Tgrihergojiroo! [/blatant sarcasm] Seriously people, are we actually having a discussion about aliens on earth? Government conspiracy...

Too bad this isn't the Creation Vs. Mathematics forum. Do you see a problem with your flunking biology class then attacking evolution as if you know it? I do. These might help you: http://www.talkorigins.org - Good Site http://www.gate.net/~rwms/EvoEvidence.html - Evidence for Evolution...

I think someone failed science class. *cough*

Listen people, we all know Cthulhu is the master of all.

Ah, I get that response all the time. Oh that's it, I must not have done it right or been faithful enough.

I stopped praying when I found out that praying to God and praying to a tree lend the same results. But that's for another discussion. I'm interested in how Jesus is the word of God. Don't you mean the Bible? In which case you have no way to back that up because God is a supernatural being.