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Schönborn hopes papal resignations will not catch on

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“It must not become the tradition. I am convinced that the right thing is for Popes to remain in office until the end of their lives.”

The Archbishop of Vienna, Cardinal Christoph Schönborn OP, has said he does not think papal resignations should become the norm.

He hoped that it would not become the tradition for a Pope to resign as the former Pope Benedict XVI had done, Schönborn said on Austrian state television in a special programme on 2 January to mark the death of the former Pope.

“It must not become the tradition. I am convinced that the right thing is for Popes to remain in office until the end of their lives. That’s how it has been for centuries,” Schönborn said.

But he added that Benedict’s resignation had at the same time also been an important sign “that the Pope is only the Pope and not the dear Lord”.

The Dominican cardinal said he hoped that Pope Francis would not resign.

He paid tribute to Benedict who had been a close friend of his for many years.

Addressing the accusation that Pope Benedict XVI had covered up the case of a particularly serious priest abuser when he had been Archbishop of Munich from 1977 to 1980, Schönborn said the whole case should be reopened and the time when it happened taken into account.

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I agree.
I too think that resignation is just a sign of our times, and really more of a personal.plea, coming from an overwhelmed Pope( and which of us hasn't been overwhelmed!) in a very human person.
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I am curious where it is Traditionally a decided necessity to stay as the Pope til death in 100% of the time.
:scratch:
Peter and after were executed and persecuted.
I don't know - honestly - how long they lived.

In these days and times, letting an elderly man rest as another replaces him [because living til 90 is now a possibility] isn't a sin, I am sure.
I don't think it's testing the Lord and His ability to work through an elderly person... and the hardships are possibly part of his own redemptive cooperation. But I don't think it lies in the sinful area if he steps down.

I mean, maybe the suffering in that role til death lessens his time in purgatory. Perhaps even brings Saintly graces.
But being too feeble to act properly certainly has to be a consideration such as any inability to exercise the movement required to oversee things and travel. Altzheimer's, dementia etc should be grounds for removable as well.

SO I can see how it worked for JPll and I can see how B16 it worked to step back.
Only the Lord knows what He requires. :praying: I think it's personal.
Maybe B16 knowing JPll knew he was unable to remove himself but nobody did so. Maybe watching him becoming too feeble for the role made B16 consider the hardships on the Church rather than the possible good. :scratch:
 
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