Kjv-only..idol Worship????huh???

Who is "we"?

Originally posted by lambslove
How about the one about Saul's head and shoulders being very deformed.


And he had a son, whose name was Saul, a choice young man, and a goodly: and there was not among the children of Israel a goodlier person than he: from his shoulders and upward he was higher than any of the people.
1 Samuel 9:2

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I have an even better one. Without looking up the meaning I wonder how many KJV-Only people understand this verse in Acts 28:13:
"And from thence we fetched a compass, and came to Rhegium."

Fetched a compass? Now that's a little difficult to understand with 21st century English.

Originally posted by lambslove
I'm fine with that Catchup.


I get no pleasure at all out of these discussion about the KJV vs the world. I'm actually tired of being clunked on the head by those who are convinced that God speaks in "thee" s and "thou"s only.

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I agree. GEL and I discussed this a little bit several weeks back on this forum and I mentioned the work of James White on this subject to which she replied that James White did some serious research on this subject but she disagreed with what he said. I guess it boils down to who you want to believe as a biblical scholar of textual criticism. I asked our new pastor about this subject a while back since he is a big reader of material on a weekly basis. He told me that he has about 300 books in his library on this subject and the debate continues. He said that we can be sure that we have the word of God today in our bibles, and I agree. I think the KJV-Only arguments are nit-picking at the least and rediculous at the worst. I will put the NKJV up against it any day.

Originally posted by GreenEyedLady
Dude...I don't even know who james white is....you must be thinking of someone else.
I feel good about nit picking on the Word of GOD>......Are you suggesting that there is indeed no way satan can corrupt bibles?
GEL

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My appologies. It must have been someone else.

Why do you have to bring Satan into the equation? Not everything that is done wrong in this world can be attributed to Satan. If Satan wanted to "corrupt" a bible he would not leave a clear way of salvation in practically every modern version in existance. Besides that, the "corruption" KJV-Only people speak of is silly to say the least. The only way you can be a KJV-Only advocate is if you have a prejudice for the manuscripts and favor the Byzantine manuscripts over the Alexandrian which is without warrant.

Also ... umm .. haven't a lot of manuscripts been found inbetween 1611 and 1980 (or whenever some of the good modern translations were translated, like the NAS)? Certainly the dead sea scrolls, for one...

Anyway, KJV is a good, word for word translation. King James was not a good guy, but God used him. God did not inspire the writers of the KJV Bible so that the KJV is perfect, in fact it isn't... the verse that immediately pops to my mind is "money is the root of all evil." Money isn't THE root of all evil, it's A root, and it's the LOVE of money.

Anyway... I think a LOT of modern translations today aren't very good - living Bible, NIV to a certain extent, etc. Word for word is much better than phrase, ideas, or just plain interpretations....

What's even worse (or funnier ) is when someone will argue that the KJV is BETTER than the Greek manuscripts.

By the way, interesting little trivia question ... King James never Authorized the 1611 Bible. In fact, Authorized isn't found in the original... what "authorized" it is when some people in America (when it was still colonies) "authorized" it, meaning that they deemd it ok to use.... they had refused to use it (they used the Geneva Bible instead) becuase they knew King James and er .. how not so good he was

"Are you suggesting that there is indeed no way satan can corrupt bibles?"

This is like me building a molehill and calling it a mountain. Translation isn't corruption if the original intent is gotten across, which does happen in other translations then the KJV, the NASB for example is a great translation.

By the way, interesting little trivia question ... King James never Authorized the 1611 Bible. In fact, Authorized isn't found in the original... what "authorized" it is when some people in America (when it was still colonies) "authorized" it, meaning that they deemd it ok to use.... they had refused to use it (they used the Geneva Bible instead) becuase they knew King James and er .. how not so good he was

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The bit of trivia concerning the King James Bible that always amused me was the fact that Richard Thompson, the chief translator for the section from Genesis to 2 Kings, was an alcoholic who "drank his fill daily" throughout the translational process.

I wonder if it helped his judgement on those difficult Hebrew passages????

(Gustavus S. Paine: the Men Behind the KJV; Baker Book House 1979, pp. 40, 69.)