Discussing bible with others

SystemOfADOWN

unplugged
Aug 13, 2003
199
0
39
pittsburgh
✟15,319.00
Faith
Non-Denom
This is basically about my situation.

I read the bible on the internet, the NKJV, KJV, NIV, whatever. I kind of switch sometimes when stuff gets TOO complicated.

Anyway, i have a study bible also. I use that often also. Well, my mother and her boyfriend decided today to try to "prove" to me that I -HAVE- to go to communion at the catholic church because John 6:51 or something around there says so.

I read the passages and what Jesus said, and the interpretation I got was that Jesus was talking to the people there, and not making a general rule that you must re-enact that same "supper" every sunday. They thought different. They argued with me about how i have to or i will not have eternal life, and it got really upsetting because i got angry when they kept making hypocritical statements. Example. One was how my mom said i spend too much time in my room, and not with her. My mom is a chain smoker, loves to talk on the phone and watch lifetime movies. Well, everytime it is that i go downstairs, she's doing one of the three and normally is doing something and can't really talk or whatever. I brang that up, and she got mad and basically lied and said "I DONT DO ALL THAT THERE IS PLENTY OF TIME TO SPEND TIME WITH ME" when there actually isn't.

It upsets me, because i brang up CF.com and how i talk to other christians about certain topics, and her boyfriend was like "I DONT care who they are, they could be fat 40 year old men trying to lure you in to doing something bad!" I responded with "What drugs are you on? I'm talking to christians about the bible, exchanging bible verses and the likes. how can that possible be related to anything sexual or anything bad at that matter?" He got angry with me and said i was a "know it all".

I don't know what to do; when i prove something to them and/or make them think about the bible and analyze it, they get upset and give me the "ITS THE BIBLE FOLLOW IT" answer, with no discussion. Then i normally just say "Yeah, the bible also says and eye for an eye. I suggest you watch out." Knowing full well i didn't mean it, because what they were saying was so hypocritical, and i just felt like proving it.

Discussions end up like this because my mother is catholic and I am not, and she thinks i'm this heathen for not being catholic..she's been getting better but if i don't follow everything SHE believes in the bible, it's all hell to pay.

Question to you CHRISTIANS out there. What should i do to convince them that i am allowed to formulate my own opinion on things, and basically talk to them without them getting so defensive? i want them to be open to other's ideas. But they aren't.
 

Blessed-one

a long journey ahead
Jan 30, 2002
12,943
190
41
Australia
Visit site
✟25,777.00
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Single
um... you said your mom's doing those three things and that there's absolutely no way that she is free to spend time with you if you went downstairs right? i think to open up the communication channel, you've to try to show her that you do care by acting your words out. (simply - witnessing) Clearly she wants to spend time with you, but may not know how to do it, you'll have to step out and help her in this matter (i dunno.. it works differently in different families. Shopping? play card games? gardening? cooking? etc etc). When the two of you are closer, you may find it easier to discuss the bible with her.

Also, don't start out by condemning her, i.e saying that you're wrong here, and making sarcastic comments that do not respect her. People tend to get "defensive" as you put it rightly, when they are told bluntly to the face that they're wrong. Your mom may be wrong, but she's simply misled. A gentle correction would soften the blow.
 
Upvote 0

Donny_B

Well-Known Member
Mar 4, 2003
570
3
North Carolina
✟740.00
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Single
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household." Matthew 10:34-36

Jesus knew that this would be the case. Yet, He also upheld the commandment to honour your father and mother. But, Christ takes precedence over your father and mother:

"He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. Matthew 10:37-40

When you discuss the Bible don't compromise on the sharing of the truth with your family, yet at the same time show them respect to the best of your ability. You will probably not change their minds overnight, and you may even have to limit these discussions with them to avoid confrontation. But over time they may change, as they see how you live and as you make yourself a good witness to the truth.
 
Upvote 0

BigEd

an adopted child of God
Feb 15, 2002
1,090
4
58
connecticut
✟9,726.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I would say the most important thing to do, when you are having a strugle with someone, is to pray fro them. pray for your mom and her boyfreind. When ever you face anything in you're life that seems out of control or intolerable give it up to the Lord. keep praying, then wait on the lord. if you grow impaitient (as I often do) give it to the Lord again and keep praying.
 
Upvote 0

Athlon4all

I'm offline indefintely
Feb 6, 2002
525
2
37
Visit site
✟15,965.00
Love. That is the greatest and most important thing in this situation. Some of the things that you said thgat you said sure didn't sound loving when I read them. I do undwerstand that it can be very difficult to love, and I am in the midst of a batrtle over it.

However, that does not undermine its importantance. Let us remember what God tells us, which is "And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity." Just love your mother and her boyfriend. Also, pray for them, as Jesus told us (Matthew 5:40 something).

These isssues are very difficult (with stuff like what goot your conversation started with the not partaking of the Holy Eucharist), and I robably have been more often rthan not on your mom's end of it (ex. with Theistic Evolutionists). In this case, along with the love, speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15). Quoting that verse from Ephesians 4 brings me to that passage which talks greatly about communication. It's interesting that it says "Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers." (v29) Encourage her by your love, which is what the passage eventually gets to in the well known v32 which says "And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you."

This is not something that you or I can do alone. We must just give up ourselves and then let God love through us. That's what I encourage you to do. Seek the LORD, and His righteousness.
 
Upvote 0