Anti-evangelical evangelicals.

Maine Progressive said:

Seriously?? Would you like a list?

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Yes

For starters

Akita Suggagaki said:

ICYMI: Warren Reads 100 Acts of Trump Corruption Into Congressional Record To Mark 100 Days of the Trump Administration

ICYMI: Warren Reads 100 Acts of Trump Corruption Into Congressional Record To Mark 100 Days of the Trump Administration - Senator Elizabeth Warren

www.warren.senate.gov

The seven deadly sins of Donald Trump

All politics evidences original sin in varying degrees. But what we see with the president and his cast of sycophants and co-conspirators — some of them beginning to flee the sinking ship on advice of counsel — is a rare thing: All seven deadly sins on display at once.

www.ncronline.org

President Trump's worst offenses - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Here are some of the most consequential categories and instances of corruption we have seen from Trump and his administration.

www.citizensforethics.org

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You are soooo indoctrinated looking at those accusers names who themselves are steeped in sin.

I love that abortion was abolished from the national level, free speech, freedom of religion, meritocracy instated, measures to abolish transitioning youngsters who will by such means be sterilized… for starts

Should take more time, but add crack down on crime, border patrol and police given authority, exposing criminals

throughfierytrial said:

You are soooo indoctrinated looking at those accusers names who themselves are steeped in sin.

I love that abortion was abolished from the national level, free speech, freedom of religion, meritocracy instated, measures to abolish transitioning youngsters who will by such means be sterilized… for starts

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So you blow it all off?

Akita Suggagaki said:

So you blow it all off?

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Nothing to blow off… I live by Christ as my head not some man.
I’m done with this thread… we all said our piece and more and all is going downhill.

throughfierytrial said:

Nothing to blow off… I live by Christ as my head not some man.
I’m done with this thread… we all said our piece and more and all is going downhill.

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You come across defending Trump no matter what. He obviously must be held in high regard by you.

I don't believe the cause of the current condition in Christendom is Trump's. Or even politics.

I believe the responibility for our current state IS Christendom.

The " body " is sick.

And the primary disease is PRIDE.

We can't hear each other. We speak our own languages.

Maine Progressive said:

Again, you're on the wrong track. This is not about being unable to tell the Gospel story. This is about the growing unwillingness of people to listen to it. Jesus Himself spoke of locations where the Good News would not be accepted. Out President has greatly increased the many who will refuse to hear it. Name any other person with ties to evangelism who has discouraged people from hearing the gospel more than him.

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I do evangelism in New Zealand, and I use Trump to help start conversations. Trump has been a major asset to me.
I ask people if they think Trump is a good person or not, some go on a tangent like you and rant saying he is not good, and others will say he is good. I then ask people if they think that they, themselves are a good person. This then leads to me using the law and showing them that they are not good and then I can share the Gospel. (NOTE: Trump is not good. Jesus said that there are none that are good)
But thanks to Trump, I have been able to tell hundreds the Gospel.

Now, can I ask you, how often you go out and share the Gospel?

Flabound said:

I don't believe the cause of the current condition in Christendom is Trump's. Or even politics.

I believe the responibility for our current state IS Christendom.

The " body " is sick.

And the primary disease is PRIDE.

We can't hear each other. We speak our own languages.

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In the West.

Flabound said:

I don't believe the cause of the current condition in Christendom is Trump's. Or even politics.

I believe the responibility for our current state IS Christendom.

The " body " is sick.

And the primary disease is PRIDE.

We can't hear each other. We speak our own languages.

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Maybe because Christendom is situated in a much larger sick global context. The message and mission of Christ have been around for over 2,000 years now and a lot of good has come from it. Many people have experienced the transforming power of God while swimming against the global tide. It is no surprise, really, that the facade of the Gospel and name of Christ have been exploited in many ways and by many people. Some even thinking they are doing God's will.

Akita Suggagaki said:

Maybe because Christendom is situated in a much larger sick global context. The message and mission of Christ have been around for over 2,000 years now and a lot of good has come from it. Many people have experienced the transforming power of God while swimming against the global tide. It is no surprise, really, that the facade of the Gospel and name of Christ have been exploited in many ways and by many people. Some even thinking they are doing God's will.

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Some were seeking to exploit it even in the 1st century as noted by Luke and Paul.

Maine Progressive said:

Often. Thanks for this post. It is an intriguing and clever way to start the conversation to witness. To take the disgust with Trump and lead to universal sinfulness which then clarifies the need for salvation. That's brilliant. I would encourage other disciples to use it. Still, the evidence clearly shows a broad increase in the reluctance of the general population to have an interest in Christianity. A reluctance arising from many factors, but Trump being a major element of it. And not so much because of how 'bad' Trump is, but more because of the perception that evangelicals support Trump. The perception that it's OK to support him while acknowledging his evil, because God is using him to aid Christianity. It's that perception which dissuades many.

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I have shared one way how I share the Gospel. You have said that you do it often. Can you tell us how?

God has led me since the late 80's to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with inmates at County Jails.The Lord aids me in preparing a message during the week for Sundays. Also, the Lord has lead my wife and I to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ in churches by having addiction support groups for individuals. It is a honor to serve God by sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ with those that are troubled and lost.

Maine Progressive said:

Then in college there was a club I was in where we went door to door witnessing.

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That takes a lot of courage. I have friends that have done this and they said that for them, it was not very successful. Many doors slammed in their face. But I am glad that they tried. By all means, save the lost.

Maine Progressive said:

Now, in retirement, most of my life revolves around caring for my very ill wife.

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There are different times in life. Now may be that time to concentrate on your wife that you have spent so many years with.

I am now 50 years old, and when I look back on my life, I realize there were many more people I could have shared the gospel with if I had been motivated to do so. Those were opportunities I can never get back.
Now I look ahead and think, perhaps I only have another 20 or 25 healthy years left. Even if I live longer, there may come a time when age or poor health limits what I can do. So, while I still have strength, now is the time to go and tell others about Christ.

Young people especially need to recognize the urgency of this. You have time, energy, and opportunities that will not always be there. Don't wait until later in life to become passionate about sharing the gospel.

It has only been in the last five years that I have had a deep passion to evangelize. One day God opened my eyes to see the seriousness of my sin and the immeasurable cost of the cross. It broke me. Then my heart was filled with such overwhelming gratitude and joy for what Christ had done that I wanted to tell everyone about His wonderful sacrifice.

If you struggle to share your faith, don't simply pray for more boldness. Pray that God would give you a deeper understanding of the horror of your sin, the greatness of His holiness, and the incredible love displayed at the cross. When those truths grip your heart, gratitude will overflow, and speaking about Christ will become the natural response of a heart that has been captivated by His grace.

Maine Progressive said:

However, I am a Progressive.

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What do you mean by progressive? What makes you different?
NOTE: The Gospel stays the same throughout time. So, it is not progressive. It does not evolve from a spoken message into our actions. But our actions are important.

Maine Progressive said:

As such I believe the Gospel is better proclaimed by doing it than saying it.

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Our good deeds are a witness, but they are not the gospel, nor are they "the power of God to salvation" (Romans 1:16). Without the gospel being spoken, a person will never know that God loved the world so much that He sent His Son to die in our place for our sins (John 3:16; 1 Corinthians 15:1–4).
Doing good deeds is important, and I am certainly not saying we should stop. Keep doing them.
However, our good works are a witness to what we believe. If we truly believe that every person is valuable because they are made in the image of God and that Christ died to save sinners, then our actions should reflect that belief. We should show genuine love, kindness, and compassion because people matter to God.
When people see that love, they may wonder why we care so deeply. That is when we need to speak. As we share the gospel, our previous actions give credibility to our words. Our deeds do not replace the gospel; they support it. They demonstrate that the message we proclaim has genuinely changed our hearts.

A believer who thinks that people will come to Christ by seeing their good deeds is like a doctor who has a patient that comes into his office. The doctor has seen the patients' medical results, and he knows that the patient is terminally ill. Rather than telling them they're terminally ill, the doctor thinks to himself, "I'm going to be a good doctor, I will be kind to people, and this person will see that I'm being a good doctor. Through this, the patient will find the cure."

Jesus did not tell us merely to be examples; He commanded us to proclaim the gospel (Mark 16:15). Likewise, the apostles not only cared for people's physical needs but also preached Christ wherever they went.
So yes, love your neighbour by caring for their needs. Feed the hungry. Help the hurting. Show compassion. But also love them enough to warn them of the condemnation they are under and to tell them about the salvation that is found in Jesus Christ. It would be unloving to know about God's offer of forgiveness, eternal life, and the coming judgment, yet never tell others how they can be saved.