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Please stop half reading. Here is what I wrote, "They got duped. A lot of MAGA got duped. Trump has been a lifelong con. Yet, this today"
Who is the messenger?
I'm not interested in spending my time refuting numerous falsehoods.
Well, they aren't even here.
Discussion forums aren't for spreading falsehoods for others to refute. Some people may feel entertained by doing that.
Is this the part where we're supposed to correct you about who it is to prevent from voting? Your question comes across as dishonest and does not reflect a genuine desire to understand the viewpoint of others. If you could simply ask who exactly voter security is meant to black from voting rather than asking if it's the right thing to prevent legal voters from voting and saying that we're just pretending it's for security, then an honest debate could be had at that point.
How tight do we need it to be?
The results of 2024 will never be repeated in the foreseeable future.
Wow, they really buried the lede on this one
99.93% of iIllegal Voters Stopped Before They Could Try to Return a Ballot! would’ve been too close to the truth.
This is not stating that a photo id should not be required. It is speaking of the requirements for photo id being made more difficult, such as the second item you highlighted.
Texas used to allow university id as a form of ID. Many college students are eligible to vote but may not have a drivers license, passport or state id. Prior to the gutting of the voting rights act they were able to use student id's for identification but afterward they eliminated that along with anything that would help students or minorities, who are seen as more liberal voters including removing polling places off campus when many students don't drive.
Voter ID Law Turns Away Texans
A voter who participated in the civil rights movement is turned away from the polls, a citizen is told her military ID isn't enough to vote, and other stories from on the ground in Texas.www.brennancenter.org
Critics See Efforts by Counties and Towns to Purge Minority Voters From Rolls
SPARTA, Ga. — When the deputy sheriff’s patrol cruiser pulled up beside him as he walked down Broad Street at sunset last August, Martee Flournoy, a 32-year-old black man, was both confused and rattled. He had reason: In this corner of rural Georgia, African-Americans are arrested at a rate far higher than that of whites.
But the deputy had not come to arrest Mr. Flournoy. Rather, he had come to challenge Mr. Flournoy’s right to vote.
The majority-white Hancock County Board of Elections and Registration was systematically questioning the registrations of more than 180 black Sparta citizens — a fifth of the city’s registered voters — by dispatching deputies with summonses commanding them to appear in person to prove their residence or lose their voting rights. “When I read that letter, I was kind of nervous,” Mr. Flournoy said in an interview. “I didn’t know what to do.”
Alabama moved last year to close 31 driver’s license offices, almost all in rural areas with large African-American populations, as a cost-saving measure. After lawsuit threats and complaints that the closings would severely curtail local voter registration, the state chose to open the offices at least one day a month. Gov. Robert J. Bentley, a Republican, has strongly denied that the closings were racially motivated.
More@ giftlink above
90-Year Old Grandmother of PA Borough President Can’t Vote Under New GOP Photo ID Law
Another Elderly Woman Gets Caught in GOP's War on Voting | BillMoyers.com
Eighty-seven-year old Ruthelle Franks speaks out about being disenfranchised by Wisconsin's voter ID law.billmoyers.com
Debunking the evidence for election fraud cases
Debunking the evidence for election fraud cases
Political science professor Justin Grimmer’s research offers a detailed look at election fraud claims, their purveyors, and the election skeptics who believehumsci.stanford.edu
Election Fraud Falsehoods Are Spreading. Here’s What to Watch For.
The truth is Pommer its so lose that any rando can do that. We don't have any government organizations pouring over the voter roles every election to make sure every vote was a legal vote. We just don't. That would be a HUGE task and take a huge agency to do that. With as many states as there are which allows anyone, legal or not to get a valid state ID its not tough for them to vote. We've been over this a lot.
People were claiming that during Trump's first 4 years. The Democrats got cocky as a result and thought Kamala was going to defeat him the second time around. Result: Trump's second term in office.
The Democrats didn't choose Kamala because they got "cocky"... they chose her because thanks to Biden's insistence on running for re-election only to drop out a month before the convention, they needed to choose a new candidate in a real hurry that they could rally the party around, because there was no time to do new primaries and there were major risks if they tried to do it the old style way of the candidates trying to persuade the delegates at the convention (what happens if they can't agree on someone in time?). If you need to quickly find a replacement presidential candidate, the most logical choice in such a case would be to choose whoever was Vice President at the time, which was Harris.
What I mean by "cocky" is that they tried with Hillary and that didn't work, and then they seemed to think that Trump was so easy to beat the second time around because of the way they kept trying to malign him during the Biden years, so they chose another woman, and it was the woman that had the least likability, and was the first to drop out of the primary to run as a Democrat for the presidential election when Biden won. That's how bad she was, and she continued proving how bad she was as vice president. Yet she was the best they could come up with when Biden finally was talked into withdrawing from the race.
