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New GOP efforts to make it harder to vote

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Then so is the gasoline needed to drive a car to the polling place.
They wouldn't need a car to walk to the mailbox.
It's amazing how people used to fight to the death for the right to vote, but aren't willing to do the simplest things in our modern age to actually vote without complaining that they have to put a bit of effort into it.
Nobody should have to spend a dollar or take a motor vehicle to vote.
 
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If it's "good enough" to allow a small amount of illegals to vote and cancel out the votes of legitimate voters, then it's good enough for a few to have their rights "trampled".
Or is it only certain groups of people who's rights aren't to be trampled?
Mail-in ballots don't trample anyone's rights.

Voter ID does, as I've proven.
 
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They wouldn't need a car to walk to the mailbox.

Nobody should have to spend a dollar or take a motor vehicle to vote.
Freedom isn't free.
 
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If it's "good enough" to allow a small amount of illegals to vote and cancel out the votes of legitimate voters, then it's good enough for a few to have their rights "trampled".
Or is it only certain groups of people who's rights aren't to be trampled?
Where has this been shown to have happened?
 
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From the link: "None of those votes appeared to influence the contests’ outcomes, Sherrill said."
So not every vote needs to count. Is that your position?
 
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Ah, so now it's a voting "pattern" you want to protect. In this case, that would be the pattern of expecting black people to vote for democrats, correct? Disrupt that and watch the accusations fly about being "attacked".
I posted how in North Carolina used data on how blacks voted and churned out legislation to strangle those patterns.

Well, I hate to remind you of this, but black people voted for Trump in larger numbers in the last election than when he was elected the first time. Looks like the pattern has already been broken--or "attacked", if you will.

They got duped. A lot of MAGA got duped. Trump has been a lifelong con. Yet, this today:

Republican disenfranchisement bid drives Black voters to polls, study finds

A new analysis of Black voters in the south indicates that Republican attempts to dilute their political power is driving them to the polls in larger numbers and shifting their counties further left.
After the supreme court effectively gutted section 2 of the Voting Rights Act protections in late April, Republican legislatures across the south rapidly pushed to disenfranchise Black voters by redrawing congressional maps. Louisiana, Florida, Tennessee and Alabama all immediately worked to pass new maps, while the Mississippi governor has said that he wants legislators to redraw maps before the upcoming midterm elections.
The analysis by VoteHub, a data-focused election organization, indicates that the efforts have only motivated Black voters in the 78 Black belt counties it tracked. All but one shifted left in partisan turnout compared with 2024. Further, majority-Black counties that voted after Louisiana v Callais, the landmark supreme court decision that triggered the Republican-led redistricting efforts, had a surge in voter participation.
They forgot the Maya Angelou adage of, " When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
 
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Now you're parroting conspiracy theories.
What conspiracy theory? The conspiracy theory is Dems are cheating lodged by the party that ironically won the House, the Senate, the Presidency, and control the SCOTUS, so we need federal legislation to curtail that non existent cheating. That's the conspiracy. The "can you just find me 11.780 votes" is not.
 
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I posted how in North Carolina used data on how blacks voted and churned out legislation to strangle those patterns.



They got duped. A lot of MAGA got duped. Trump has been a lifelong con. Yet, this today:

Republican disenfranchisement bid drives Black voters to polls, study finds

A new analysis of Black voters in the south indicates that Republican attempts to dilute their political power is driving them to the polls in larger numbers and shifting their counties further left.
After the supreme court effectively gutted section 2 of the Voting Rights Act protections in late April, Republican legislatures across the south rapidly pushed to disenfranchise Black voters by redrawing congressional maps. Louisiana, Florida, Tennessee and Alabama all immediately worked to pass new maps, while the Mississippi governor has said that he wants legislators to redraw maps before the upcoming midterm elections.
The analysis by VoteHub, a data-focused election organization, indicates that the efforts have only motivated Black voters in the 78 Black belt counties it tracked. All but one shifted left in partisan turnout compared with 2024. Further, majority-Black counties that voted after Louisiana v Callais, the landmark supreme court decision that triggered the Republican-led redistricting efforts, had a surge in voter participation.
They forgot the Maya Angelou adage of, " When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
And now you're insinuating that black people couldn't make an intelligent choice when they cast their vote. "They got duped" is how you put it. If they're duped so easily, then please don't complain about the ficticious idea that Conservatives are making it harder for them to vote. They're not. They simply understand that black people are just as intelligent as white people. They can vote for the people they want, and they can get a photo ID to enable them to do so.
 
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None of which affected the outcome of the election. No harm, no foul.
A couple posts back you were calling it all a conspiracy theory.

How quickly the goalposts move when you're losing the argument.
 
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Some of them can't, as I've already proven.
You've only proven that you believe the claim. Writing a post to state such is that proof of your belief. However, proving your belief to be based on a fact requires far more.
 
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