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Okay, but I don't know that Aristotle was ever seen that way.
So then, I can say he's not passé in toto and I can enjoy a few splurges of Thomistic theology and philosophy even if I can't grant it center stage to my own view of the world.
My general methodological advice would be this: do not criticize without offering a constructive alternative. So if you say Aristotle is passé, then you should at the same time say who is not. "Aristotle is passé. I prefer so-and-so." Or if you say you don't like hylomorphism, then you should put forth an alternative. "I prefer such-and-such to hylomorphism." Similarly, if you think Aristotle (or anyone else) is wrong about something, you should also say why. It is the opposite of constructive when one criticizes without offering reasons why and without offering constructive alternatives.

But I don't have a 'constructive alternative.' For some of us, we are Existentialists due to numerous unanswered questions and a lack of needed empirical experiences, and being that from a human subjective standpoint I see our knowledge of the world as fragmentary and partial, in both nature and explanation, I'm not going to inhabit a solid position of anything like the following competing meta-notions: Substance Dualism, [sheer] Physicalism, Bundle Theory, Substratum Theory, or Functionalism.

I'm not here on CF to offer a comprehensive set of answers about the world nor a systematic theology---I'm a general Realist with some partial influence from Critical Realism and a dash of what might pass as 'Christian Materialism.' This is why I focus on descriptive and critical explorations of historical, epistemological, and physics issues rather than offering up prescriptive metaphysical recommendations and explanations. I know that as a member of the RCC, you tend to prefer the latter.

There's a reason that the term 'Void' is in my screen name. I don't expect anyone to be a fan of my perspective, but I do believe that Jesus is Lord nevertheless.
 
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But today, people believe they can be good and perfect.
I see the darkness. I know all about serial killers that torture their victims to death, fascinated by the fear and pain that they witness. I know all about pedophiles that rape little children and convince themselves that it is a love affair. I know all about parents who chain up their child in a closet to sit hungry and thirsty in their own feces, telling themselves that the child deserves it. I know all about death camps, and the Fuhrer who truly believed he was showing compassion to the suffering German people by eliminating the world's greatest threat.

There are those who believe that evil on this level is due to demonic activity. I make no comment on whether there are demons or not, but I will say this: I have seen no atrocity in this world that cannot be explained by the evil in men's hearts of men. Monsters exist, and they look just like human beings.

And yet I have hope.

I don't understand people who think that humans are "basically good." If there are people who are completely good, I have certainly never met one. I know that I work diligently so that, with God's help, I can root out the evil in my own heart.

It seems to me that the "basically good" crowd do a lot of damage. They make naive proposals, from pacifism to communism, that inevitably fail because they don't take human nature into account. They release dangerous people back out into society naively thinking that everyone has the potential to be rehabilitated. They wear moral blinders, refusing to see the darker side of human nature even when history, psychology, and everyday experience repeatedly confront them with it. This is not hope. This is wishful thinking.

Hope is not blind to the darkness. It fixes its eyes on the light beyond it and keeps walking.

We have both a yetzer hara, inclination to evil, and a yetzer hatov, and inclination to good. The image of God is still within us. Think of the nurse who in the midst of a plague risks their life to care for the sick. Think of the idealist who, knowing they will likely be shot, continues to speak out against injustice. Think of the fireman who rushes into a burning building to save a life.

We don't just see it in great sacrifices. We see it every day, day after day, in ordinary acts of kindness. The child that gives half their Kit-Kat bar to the other child who has no dessert. The single mother who comes home exhausted from a stressful day at work and just wants to put her feet up, but patiently prepares dinner for her children, helps them with their homework, bathes them, reads to them, and kisses them goodnight. The college student who eats a lot of avocado toast because he barely makes ends meet but still manages to find a few dollars in his wallet to give to the "Will work for food" guy on the street corner.

Often, it is when evil is greatest in the world that we see people coming together. I remember on 9-11 how the tire on my car blew. Not only did someone stop, drive me to the tire store, and drive me back to help put it on, but another person at the tire store paid for my tire. Someone told me they saw a heavily tattooed guy wearing gang colors walk right up to this guy in a suit with an expensive car, shake his hand, and say, "Today we are all Americans." The Rebbe used to say, "A little light dispels a lot of darkness."

Live in hope. Hope is not merely believing that the world can be better. It is becoming one of the reasons that it will be.
 
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Everyone is born with a moral compass.

As you grow up, you're faced with choices: keep following your moral compass, or steal the 10 dollars your parents forgot. Or you did something bad and you can lie about it to lessen the punishment. Etc. This is the challenge to keeping your morals.

You're also faced with choices about improving your morals. You'll discover better morals than you have, and you can choose to take them or ignore them. For example, you might have the moral "only harm or help those who harm or help me", then you see somebody feeding orphans, who haven't helped them. This is also a challenge to your morals.

People who keep their morals, and who improve their morals, are good people. But most people in this age prefer lying and stealing, and it's getting worse.
 
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Everyone is born with a moral compass.
I'm not sure this is the case, but I really do wish it was true.

When I was a teenager, I was one of those who actually had to work through and earn my Orienteering merit badge in Boy Scouts. Eventually, I did. But unfortunately as fate would have it, I also eventually forgot what I learned.
As you grow up, you're faced with choices: keep following your moral compass, or steal the 10 dollars your parents forgot. Or you did something bad and you can lie about it to lessen the punishment. Etc. This is the challenge to keeping your morals.

You're also faced with choices about improving your morals. You'll discover better morals than you have, and you can choose to take them or ignore them. For example, you might have the moral "only harm or help those who harm or help me", then you see somebody feeding orphans, who haven't helped them. This is also a challenge to your morals.

People who keep their morals, and who improve their morals, are good people. But most people in this age prefer lying and stealing, and it's getting worse.
 
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Is goodness-narcissism destroying Western civilization?
It can destroy an individual person, in any case.

But we are the salt of the earth if we are with Jesus. And the salt wins out.

I have been told that a narcissist is someone who considers oneself to be so great. But the person piggy-backs on other people and things that are popular, so that the narcissist can get praise and trust and credit which actually is due to the people and things which the narcissist is using to make one's own self look great and good and trustworthy.

And, by the way . . . as much as the narcissist uses lying and intimidation and charm as tools, the narcissist deep-down-inside knows that if the narcissist can so fool and control and charm someone, then someone else might come along and take away the ones the narcissist is using > someone else might also be able to use lying and intimidation and charm to take the ones the narcissist is using; and so the narcissist can not get into a deep relationship of mutual love and trust with the ones the narcissist is using.

And so - - yes, this ruins the narcissist from finding out how to love. And, as much as a nation is trying to make itself more and better than other nations . . . mainly just using other countries for one's own interests . . . indeed there will be trouble in this.

My opinion is that there can be *mutual* narcissistic conflict. First, one nation can badly treat another country, and then blame the other nation when they get into a war. Maybe this happened between the United States and Japan. Japan had been an isolated nation, but American whalers violated Japan's sovereignty; and then the Japanese could be very cruel to American sailors who came from shipwrecked whaling vessels; so the United States military forced Japan to stop that, and America got Japan into trade with the United States. Then, with trading and with learning technology from "the West", Japan became more of a super-power because of how they advanced in industry and technology; and then was when they became such a formidable opponent in World War 2 - - narcissistically fighting with the country which had more or less narcissistically abused Japan - - it seems possible, to me.
Without a living insight into original sin and the permanently divided nature of the human being, we lose the only antidote to moral absolutism.
More than such awareness, I would say we can trust God to do what is possible with God, to change us out of this trap of either keeping on sinning and knowing this, or of living in denial of our problem. God is able to correct our character so we grow in Christ > Hebrews 12:4-14.
When humanity forgets its own dark nature, it becomes dangerous, precisely because it believes itself to be good. Ecclesiastes warns precisely against this self-destructive pursuit of over-righteousness.
I would say be aware of what is dark. And God's word says to **get rid of** what is dark, and discover how to love and forgive, instead >

"Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:31-32)

Paul does not say for us to expect to keep on being in the split-nature trap.

But "over-righteousness" can mean how a person can exalt one's own self . . . in comparison with other people. Rather, we need to evaluate ourselves in comparison with Jesus, and trust God to change us to be and to love more like Jesus . . . as is possible with God.

Of course, then . . . laws are not going to make this happen. No law can make a person love.
 
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Everyone is born with a moral compass.

As you grow up, you're faced with choices: keep following your moral compass, or steal the 10 dollars your parents forgot. Or you did something bad and you can lie about it to lessen the punishment. Etc. This is the challenge to keeping your morals.

You're also faced with choices about improving your morals. You'll discover better morals than you have, and you can choose to take them or ignore them. For example, you might have the moral "only harm or help those who harm or help me", then you see somebody feeding orphans, who haven't helped them. This is also a challenge to your morals.

People who keep their morals, and who improve their morals, are good people. But most people in this age prefer lying and stealing, and it's getting worse.
The inborn "moral compass" exists primarily to restrain the darker impulses of human nature. It does not heal our corruption; it merely prevents our shadow side from breaking loose. Goodness-narcissists exploit this instinct by appealing to whatever sounds morally uplifting, regardless of the consequences. They champion slogans such as "we should share our riches with all the world's citizens" or "compassion requires open borders." These are claims that flatter the moral instinct even when they produce destructive outcomes. In this way, the moral compass becomes a potent instrument for societal unraveling.

Meowzltov gives the example of a child who shares half of her Kit‑Kat bar with another child who has no dessert. Yes, this reflects Christian morality, which centers on love of the neighbour. But it also recognizes that abstract, humanistic obligations towards anonymous people on distant continents can become a form of hubris. Christ carries the cross of the world; we are called to carry our own personal cross.

The goodness‑narcissist transfers Christ's cross onto the citizens, who already struggle under heavy burdens, and thus can no longer carry the cross appointed to them. This evasion blinds them to the real neighbour before them, as the Good Samaritan story illustrates. As Jesus says about the goodness-narcissists:

They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people's shoulders; but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. (Matthew 23:4)​
 
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The inborn "moral compass" exists primarily to restrain the darker impulses of human nature. It does not heal our corruption; it merely prevents our shadow side from breaking loose. Goodness-narcissists exploit this instinct by appealing to whatever sounds morally uplifting, regardless of the consequences. They champion slogans such as "we should share our riches with all the world's citizens" or "compassion requires open borders." These are claims that flatter the moral instinct even when they produce destructive outcomes. In this way, the moral compass becomes a potent instrument for societal unraveling.

Meowzltov gives the example of a child who shares half of her Kit‑Kat bar with another child who has no dessert. Yes, this reflects Christian morality, which centers on love of the neighbour. But it also recognizes that abstract, humanistic obligations towards anonymous people on distant continents can become a form of hubris. Christ carries the cross of the world; we are called to carry our own personal cross.

The goodness‑narcissist transfers Christ's cross onto the citizens, who already struggle under heavy burdens, and thus can no longer carry the cross appointed to them. This evasion blinds them to the real neighbour before them, as the Good Samaritan story illustrates. As Jesus says about the goodness-narcissists:

They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people's shoulders; but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. (Matthew 23:4)​
It is unclear to me who you are thinking/saying the goodness-narcissists are?

If you could just tell us clearly who you think they are, and in simple terms, then maybe your argument would become clear maybe?

But until then, I don't think it's going to, or if you're even wanting it to, etc.

God Bless.
 
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It is unclear to me who you are thinking/saying the goodness-narcissists are?

If you could just tell us clearly who you think they are, and in simple terms, then maybe your argument would become clear maybe?

But until then, I don't think it's going to, or if you're even wanting it to, etc.

God Bless.
I'm amazed at this level of unconsciousness. How can someone remain so blind to the political forces undermining the West, and to the hypocrisy surrounding us? How does one stay mentally in a safe Kindergarten for an entire lifetime? Has the comfort of the welfare state produced this mentality?
 
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I'm amazed at this level of unconsciousness. How can someone remain so blind to the political forces undermining the West, and to the hypocrisy surrounding us? How does one stay mentally in a safe Kindergarten for an entire lifetime? Has the comfort of the welfare state produced this mentality?

I used to ask some of the same questions when I was a teenager as I tried to figure out how to deal with my schizophrenic mother.

But then, I took an introductory class on Neuro-Science at the university, and it all made a bit more sense afterward.
 
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I'm amazed at this level of unconsciousness. How can someone remain so blind to the political forces undermining the West, and to the hypocrisy surrounding us? How does one stay mentally in a safe Kindergarten for an entire lifetime? Has the comfort of the welfare state produced this mentality?
That's not an answer.

And I'm not sure you want to answer either, because even you yourself already knows that the side your right now on has a lot of wrong, and you're afraid that if you just come out and say it plainly, that everybody will be able to see just how much against Jesus teachings, or just how wrong, etc.

I can help you with that though believe it or not, because, you see, someone like me doesn't have just one particular side over the other that he's currently standing on, and is free to discuss them both, etc.

God Bless.
 
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I'm amazed at this level of unconsciousness.
I can guarantee you, I am conscious, etc.
How can someone remain so blind to the political forces undermining the West
The unnecessary warfare of two main political parties right now is tearing everything down/ripping the whole world apart, etc. And it's completely unnecessary from my point of view, etc. Cause I know how to reconcile the two, etc.
and to the hypocrisy surrounding us?
There's hypocrisy everywhere, that's for sure, etc.

You sure you don't have any?

Because I suspect that could be your reason for your gripe on here, etc. Your own hypocrisy, etc. And your wrestling with it, etc. Because your conscience is telling you it's wrong, etc. But I can help you with that, etc.
How does one stay mentally in a safe Kindergarten for an entire lifetime?
Are you saying I'm a Kindergartener?
Has the comfort of the welfare state produced this mentality?
Some welfare for certain individuals is sometimes necessary in a lot of societies, what's your point? You have something against having a social safety net for those who really do need it or have some very valid reasons for needing it or something?
 
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I'm not sure this is the case, but I really do wish it was true.
It's definitely true. You might lose weaker directions early in life, but you won't lose the bigger ones. For example, killing innocent people. Or stealing from the poor. Your, and everyone else's, moral compasses strongly resist these actions. The only people who feel nothing are monsters who broke their compasses long ago. This is how you know it's definitely real.

Goodness-narcissists exploit this instinct by appealing to whatever sounds morally uplifting, regardless of the consequences. They champion slogans such as "we should share our riches with all the world's citizens" or "compassion requires open borders." These are claims that flatter the moral instinct even when they produce destructive outcomes. In this way, the moral compass becomes a potent instrument for societal unraveling.
Are you saying that having morals can be bad?

Did you say this out of ignorance or do you really believe this way?

I'm amazed at this level of unconsciousness. How can someone remain so blind to the political forces undermining the West, and to the hypocrisy surrounding us? How does one stay mentally in a safe Kindergarten for an entire lifetime? Has the comfort of the welfare state produced this mentality?
He asked a simple question, politely. It might not be out of "unconsciousness" or "blindness", but because he found your statements unclear. That's a perfectly valid reason. So why did you respond in this way?
 
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It's definitely true. You might lose weaker directions early in life, but you won't lose the bigger ones. For example, killing innocent people. Or stealing from the poor. Your, and everyone else's, moral compasses strongly resist these actions. The only people who feel nothing are monsters who broke their compasses long ago. This is how you know it's definitely real.

Ok. So are you essentially saying that most people are born with the capacity for empathy that inclines them toward altruistic behavior?
 
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Ok. So are you essentially saying that most people are born with the capacity for empathy that inclines them toward altruistic behavior?
I don't really understand what you said.

Put another way, all people (not most) are born with a sense for right and wrong (the moral compass, and it can be altruistic). But it's not perfect. And they can lose it or improve it through their actions. Those who lose it are criminals and monsters, for example.
 
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I don't really understand what you said.

Put another way, all people (not most) are born with a sense for right and wrong (the moral compass, and it can be altruistic). But it's not perfect. And they can lose it or improve it through their actions. Those who lose it are criminals and monsters, for example.

I can agree with your general position on this, and I think the Apostle Paul would agree with you as well.
 
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Are you saying that having morals can be bad?

Did you say this out of ignorance or do you really believe this way?
Isn't being good often the most effective way of doing evil? Has the United States not bombed people out of a sense of moral righteousness? Are university cancellations not carried out in the name of virtue? Moralism is a destructive force, and both Jesus and Paul are relentless in opposing it.

Their target is the moralistic spirit, exemplified by the Judaizer who weaponizes the Law to dominate others. Their critique is not of goodness but of goodness-as-power, goodness-as-self-exaltation. In this sense, moralism is not merely a mistake; it is a spiritual pathology.

Nietzsche argues that moral righteousness is often a mask for resentment, domination, and cruelty: "Moralities are the masks of power." He shows how "goodness" becomes a tool for punishing others while feeling virtuous.

René Girard's theory of scapegoating shows how communities expel individuals in the name of "the good," convinced of their own righteousness. The scapegoat mechanism is always moralized: the victim is portrayed as a threat to purity, unity, or virtue. Contemporary university cancellations follow this pattern with remarkable precision.

Ivan Illich, in Medical Nemesis and Deschooling Society, argues that institutions founded on moral ideals, such as health, education and welfare, often generate outcomes directly opposed to their stated aims. The more "good" they intend, the more destructive their unintended consequences become. Illich calls this "the shadow side of institutionalized virtue." It is precisely this dynamic that explains the morality of "bombing out of goodness."

Kierkegaard attacks the moralistic complacency of Christendom, where people believe themselves good because they conform to social norms. He calls this "the most dangerous form of evil," and it is precisely the evil Jesus confronts in the Gospels.

Hannah Arendt shows how bureaucrats commit atrocities not out of hatred but out of moral duty, obedience, and the desire to "do the right thing." Evil becomes banal when it is moralized. This is a secular version of Paul's critique of the Law.

How can good become the engine of evil? Christian theology has long insisted, Augustine most clearly, that evil has no independent substance. It is parasitic, feeding on the good that God has created. Deprived of that good, evil collapses into its own chaos and incoherence. Its only power is borrowed power.

For this reason, the greater the good, the greater the possible distortion. Evil thrives only where goodness is abundant. It insinuates itself into what is healthy, true, and life-giving, building upon those very gifts until it reaches the limit beyond which God does not permit it to go.

This is why we cannot imagine ourselves living in an age where evil is slowly disappearing. The opposite is true. Wherever genuine goods flourish evil finds new hosts: in technological power, moral zeal, political idealism, religious conviction. Evil is a leech, and our age is thick with leeches.

He asked a simple question, politely. It might not be out of "unconsciousness" or "blindness", but because he found your statements unclear. That's a perfectly valid reason. So why did you respond in this way?
The psychologist Carl Jung argues that "one of the toughest roots of all evil is unconsciousness" (Psychology and Religion: West and East, para. 291). He explains again and again that unconsciousness is the primary root of evil, the condition that allows destructive forces to operate unchecked. This is why Jung insists that genuine moral effort must be directed towards the expansion of consciousness rather than towards moralistic self-perfection. Evil thrives where people refuse to know themselves.

Jesus makes a similar demand for a union of moral clarity and strategic intelligence: "Be wise as serpents and innocent as doves" (Matthew 10:16). The force of the saying is that Christian action must hold both qualities together: moral uprightness without naivety, and shrewd discernment without malice. It is not easy to combine a dove and a serpent. In fact, it is extraordinarily difficult to be a truly good person. Innocence without awareness is no virtue, because naïve people leave the door wide open for evil.
 
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Isn't being good often the most effective way of doing evil? Has the United States not bombed people out of a sense of moral righteousness? Are university cancellations not carried out in the name of virtue? Moralism is a destructive force, and both Jesus and Paul are relentless in opposing it.

Their target is the moralistic spirit, exemplified by the Judaizer who weaponizes the Law to dominate others. Their critique is not of goodness but of goodness-as-power, goodness-as-self-exaltation. In this sense, moralism is not merely a mistake; it is a spiritual pathology.

Nietzsche argues that moral righteousness is often a mask for resentment, domination, and cruelty: "Moralities are the masks of power." He shows how "goodness" becomes a tool for punishing others while feeling virtuous.

René Girard's theory of scapegoating shows how communities expel individuals in the name of "the good," convinced of their own righteousness. The scapegoat mechanism is always moralized: the victim is portrayed as a threat to purity, unity, or virtue. Contemporary university cancellations follow this pattern with remarkable precision.

Ivan Illich, in Medical Nemesis and Deschooling Society, argues that institutions founded on moral ideals, such as health, education and welfare, often generate outcomes directly opposed to their stated aims. The more "good" they intend, the more destructive their unintended consequences become. Illich calls this "the shadow side of institutionalized virtue." It is precisely this dynamic that explains the morality of "bombing out of goodness."

Kierkegaard attacks the moralistic complacency of Christendom, where people believe themselves good because they conform to social norms. He calls this "the most dangerous form of evil," and it is precisely the evil Jesus confronts in the Gospels.

Hannah Arendt shows how bureaucrats commit atrocities not out of hatred but out of moral duty, obedience, and the desire to "do the right thing." Evil becomes banal when it is moralized. This is a secular version of Paul's critique of the Law.

How can good become the engine of evil? Christian theology has long insisted, Augustine most clearly, that evil has no independent substance. It is parasitic, feeding on the good that God has created. Deprived of that good, evil collapses into its own chaos and incoherence. Its only power is borrowed power.

For this reason, the greater the good, the greater the possible distortion. Evil thrives only where goodness is abundant. It insinuates itself into what is healthy, true, and life-giving, building upon those very gifts until it reaches the limit beyond which God does not permit it to go.

This is why we cannot imagine ourselves living in an age where evil is slowly disappearing. The opposite is true. Wherever genuine goods flourish evil finds new hosts: in technological power, moral zeal, political idealism, religious conviction. Evil is a leech, and our age is thick with leeches.


The psychologist Carl Jung argues that "one of the toughest roots of all evil is unconsciousness" (Psychology and Religion: West and East, para. 291). He explains again and again that unconsciousness is the primary root of evil, the condition that allows destructive forces to operate unchecked. This is why Jung insists that genuine moral effort must be directed towards the expansion of consciousness rather than towards moralistic self-perfection. Evil thrives where people refuse to know themselves.

Jesus makes a similar demand for a union of moral clarity and strategic intelligence: "Be wise as serpents and innocent as doves" (Matthew 10:16). The force of the saying is that Christian action must hold both qualities together: moral uprightness without naivety, and shrewd discernment without malice. It is not easy to combine a dove and a serpent. In fact, it is extraordinarily difficult to be a truly good person. Innocence without awareness is no virtue, because naïve people leave the door wide open for evil.

While I agree with the general focal point of your post here, as would likely Blaise Pascal, there is also a simpler way to designate what is happening in the world today among the masses: there is too much victimization of one form or another and many people are left struggling with trauma and remain in states of hyper vigilance. They are angry and don't really know who they can trust. So, they latch onto one of the common Ideologies that promises them relief (usually false relief).
 
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Isn't being good often the most effective way of doing evil? Has the United States not bombed people out of a sense of moral righteousness? Are university cancellations not carried out in the name of virtue? Moralism is a destructive force, and both Jesus and Paul are relentless in opposing it.

Their target is the moralistic spirit, exemplified by the Judaizer who weaponizes the Law to dominate others. Their critique is not of goodness but of goodness-as-power, goodness-as-self-exaltation. In this sense, moralism is not merely a mistake; it is a spiritual pathology.

Nietzsche argues that moral righteousness is often a mask for resentment, domination, and cruelty: "Moralities are the masks of power." He shows how "goodness" becomes a tool for punishing others while feeling virtuous.

René Girard's theory of scapegoating shows how communities expel individuals in the name of "the good," convinced of their own righteousness. The scapegoat mechanism is always moralized: the victim is portrayed as a threat to purity, unity, or virtue. Contemporary university cancellations follow this pattern with remarkable precision.

Ivan Illich, in Medical Nemesis and Deschooling Society, argues that institutions founded on moral ideals, such as health, education and welfare, often generate outcomes directly opposed to their stated aims. The more "good" they intend, the more destructive their unintended consequences become. Illich calls this "the shadow side of institutionalized virtue." It is precisely this dynamic that explains the morality of "bombing out of goodness."

Kierkegaard attacks the moralistic complacency of Christendom, where people believe themselves good because they conform to social norms. He calls this "the most dangerous form of evil," and it is precisely the evil Jesus confronts in the Gospels.

Hannah Arendt shows how bureaucrats commit atrocities not out of hatred but out of moral duty, obedience, and the desire to "do the right thing." Evil becomes banal when it is moralized. This is a secular version of Paul's critique of the Law.

How can good become the engine of evil? Christian theology has long insisted, Augustine most clearly, that evil has no independent substance. It is parasitic, feeding on the good that God has created. Deprived of that good, evil collapses into its own chaos and incoherence. Its only power is borrowed power.

For this reason, the greater the good, the greater the possible distortion. Evil thrives only where goodness is abundant. It insinuates itself into what is healthy, true, and life-giving, building upon those very gifts until it reaches the limit beyond which God does not permit it to go.

This is why we cannot imagine ourselves living in an age where evil is slowly disappearing. The opposite is true. Wherever genuine goods flourish evil finds new hosts: in technological power, moral zeal, political idealism, religious conviction. Evil is a leech, and our age is thick with leeches.


The psychologist Carl Jung argues that "one of the toughest roots of all evil is unconsciousness" (Psychology and Religion: West and East, para. 291). He explains again and again that unconsciousness is the primary root of evil, the condition that allows destructive forces to operate unchecked. This is why Jung insists that genuine moral effort must be directed towards the expansion of consciousness rather than towards moralistic self-perfection. Evil thrives where people refuse to know themselves.

Jesus makes a similar demand for a union of moral clarity and strategic intelligence: "Be wise as serpents and innocent as doves" (Matthew 10:16). The force of the saying is that Christian action must hold both qualities together: moral uprightness without naivety, and shrewd discernment without malice. It is not easy to combine a dove and a serpent. In fact, it is extraordinarily difficult to be a truly good person. Innocence without awareness is no virtue, because naïve people leave the door wide open for evil.

I get the feeling that I could take your post and copy it to Commitment to Truth and Character and it wouldn't be off topic, as the sense of moral righteousness often goes hand in hand with one's supposed commitment to the 'truth'.

It's funny how respect for the truth is always something that 'the other guy' lacks.
 
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For example, killing innocent people. Or stealing from the poor. Your, and everyone else's, moral compasses strongly resist these actions. The only people who feel nothing are monsters who broke their compasses long ago.

Funny thing though, sometimes it's that very 'moral' compass that leads people to do atrocious things.

This is how you know it's definitely real.

The question is, when 'morality' turns into 'superiority'... is it still morality?
 
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