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Who is worse; Donald Trump or Boris Johnson?

Who is worse?

  • Trump

    Votes: 8 88.9%
  • Boris

    Votes: 1 11.1%

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I wanted to open a discussion about two highly controversial political figures and how their actions and leadership have affected public trust, governance, and political culture. Both have strong supporters and equally strong critics, but it’s worth examining the criticisms of each side in a balanced way.

Both are dreadful, but which of these two idiots do you find worse?

Boris's issues

COVID-19 lockdown policies: The UK’s lockdown approach was overly strict or poorly balanced, with long-term impacts on education, the economy, and mental health. Others dispute this, saying restrictions were necessary given the circumstances.

Partygate scandal: Reports and investigations found that gatherings and parties hosted by Boris took place during COVID lockdown rules. This led to fines and significant political fallout.

Brexit campaign and messaging: His campaign claims were misleading or oversimplified, contributing to long-term political division.

Political conduct and personal controversies: Johnson has faced scrutiny over ethics, transparency, and aspects of his personal life, which some argue affected public confidence in leadership.

Trump meanwhile got his supporters to riot after losing the election. Made endless false lies about the election being stolen. Got rid of criminal convictions of all the thugs who took part in his riots. Is a sex offender, akes away freedom of speech, and has broken many kther laws.

It's tough, but I'll go with Boris as the worst.
 

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Boris's Partygate scandal was terrible, but he didn't take us to war and didn't blow up any boats of suspected drug smugglers. I think he managed the pandemic quite well (apart from not obeying his own rules!) and kept us informed with his TV slots, with the medical and scientific experts. As for Brexit, he implemented the result of the referendum, which Theresa May had tried so hard to do but Parliament was not implementing the will of the people. So my vote went to Trump.

Having said that, managing a country must be a very hard thing to do, with stresses which we are probably not aware of, so I wouldn't call them idiots. Also, we all have foibles, which is when we need others to keep us on the right track. In the UK, Parliamentary procedure means that no one person can just get their own way. In the USA, the system doesn't seem to have the same control over the President.
 
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Trump meanwhile got his supporters to riot after losing the election.
False!
Made endless false lies about the election being stolen.
False!
Got rid of criminal convictions of all the thugs who took part in his riots.
As he should have based on the many cases where many of those charged had rights violated by a politicized DOJ.

Is a sex offender
Under appeal. Don’t break out the champagne yet.
akes away freedom of speech,
Baseless charge! Give examples.
and has broken many kther laws.
Another baseless charge! Which ones?
 
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Boris might have stuffed up the UK with Brexit, but Trump is not satisfied with only stuffing up his own country.

Between the tariffs, the war in the Middle East, the withdrawal from its commitments to the international community and the rejection of traditional US alliances and overturning of decades long friendly political, cultural, economic and military relationships Mr Trump and the current administration are thoroughly borking not just themselves but the rest of the world as well.
 
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