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A Better Way: Saudi Arabia and 9 Allies Retaliate against The Houti
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I agree it is better than the USA doing everything. But if you like this with the houthis, why not let others handle Iran controlling the strait? To me that seems consistent and the USA can stop fighting now.
To dog deeper to objectives, they should have been stated from the start. I mean even a college teacher states the objectives of a single course. Yet, here we have a billions spend on war, with no firm objectives. The main objective for the USA perhaps should have remained to prevent Iran from having a nuclear weapon. One would then just argue about whether setting them back from getting them or completely preventing them by taking the enriched uranium by force. Regime change, the control of the strait, is seemingly overreach. It is overreach because few Americans want to spend the cost of lives and money to put boots on the ground. Trump played the bluff and Iran did not fold. So you want to bet more? Go ahead but what will you win? We sure are not going to get money, and there is no telling what regime change might bring, some say it will be worse than what we have now. So perhaps the USA should care less about the Hormuz strait. After all the USA oil companies are doing great. Aramco and the Middle east oil companies are the ones that will pay Iran fees. They and the others that depend on the oil should handle the strait. This is consistent with the idea of letting others handle the Houthis.
To dog deeper to objectives, they should have been stated from the start. I mean even a college teacher states the objectives of a single course. Yet, here we have a billions spend on war, with no firm objectives. The main objective for the USA perhaps should have remained to prevent Iran from having a nuclear weapon. One would then just argue about whether setting them back from getting them or completely preventing them by taking the enriched uranium by force. Regime change, the control of the strait, is seemingly overreach. It is overreach because few Americans want to spend the cost of lives and money to put boots on the ground. Trump played the bluff and Iran did not fold. So you want to bet more? Go ahead but what will you win? We sure are not going to get money, and there is no telling what regime change might bring, some say it will be worse than what we have now. So perhaps the USA should care less about the Hormuz strait. After all the USA oil companies are doing great. Aramco and the Middle east oil companies are the ones that will pay Iran fees. They and the others that depend on the oil should handle the strait. This is consistent with the idea of letting others handle the Houthis.
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Because of Iran's actions in history their neighbors don't like Iran either. I think many of the same countries are operating today.
I posed your search on ChatGPT:
If you're referring to the Saudi-led intervention in Yemen that began in 2015, Saudi Arabia did not act alone. It led a coalition that included military, logistical, and political support from several countries.
The main participants included:
In addition, several countries supported the coalition without being formal combat members:
Some countries considered joining but ultimately did not:
It's also worth noting that the coalition evolved over time. The UAE significantly reduced its military presence beginning in 2019, Qatar left the coalition in 2017, and Saudi Arabia has increasingly emphasized negotiations alongside military operations in recent years.
I posed your search on ChatGPT:
If you're referring to the Saudi-led intervention in Yemen that began in 2015, Saudi Arabia did not act alone. It led a coalition that included military, logistical, and political support from several countries.
The main participants included:
- United Arab Emirates – One of Saudi Arabia's closest military partners, contributing air, ground, and naval forces, particularly in southern Yemen.
- Bahrain – Contributed fighter aircraft.
- Kuwait – Contributed fighter aircraft.
- Qatar – Participated early in the coalition before being removed after the 2017 Gulf diplomatic crisis.
- Egypt – Contributed naval and air forces and helped secure Red Sea shipping routes.
- Jordan – Contributed fighter aircraft.
- Sudan – Sent ground troops and aircraft during the earlier years of the conflict.
- Morocco – Expressed support and reportedly contributed aircraft in the early phase.
In addition, several countries supported the coalition without being formal combat members:
- The United States provided intelligence, aerial refueling (until 2018), logistics, arms sales, and maintenance support, particularly in the early years of the intervention.
- The United Kingdom provided training, logistical assistance, and continued arms sales.
- France also sold weapons and provided defense cooperation, though it was not a formal coalition member.
Some countries considered joining but ultimately did not:
- Pakistan debated sending forces, but its parliament voted against direct military involvement in Yemen while affirming support for Saudi Arabia's territorial defense.
- Oman remained neutral and instead often acted as a mediator in peace efforts.
It's also worth noting that the coalition evolved over time. The UAE significantly reduced its military presence beginning in 2019, Qatar left the coalition in 2017, and Saudi Arabia has increasingly emphasized negotiations alongside military operations in recent years.
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The people who matter, corporations manufacturing weapons and their shareholders, sure haven’t regretted it.
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1) The Houtis and Saudi Arabia have been in a conflict for decades. The blockage is of Saudi oil. So, the Saudis responded. It is instructive that the Saudis had the immediate support of 9 countries. In comparison, we were supporting Israel's war efforts for a total of 2 coeuntries.
2) The Israeli/Trump wars are about many things. They don't think it necessary to prepare for the academic debate that you seem to require. They couldn't convince other to support them in the first war last June or in the second one in February. Israel and Trump wanted to accomplish many things. Few have been accomplished. IMO, it is clear that Iran is unlikely to get a nuclear bomb in the next decade (any steps towad that will result in more bombing). Also, Iran and its proxies are clearly much weaker than before they attacked Israel.
3) As an aside, the cooperation between Israel and the Arabs is something relatively new and a welcome change due to the Abraham Accords and in the Arabs seeing the common interest. I expect more cooperation when there is a new Israeli government. Iran will become more and more isolated, whether or not the Gulf states pay tolls.
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