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Suspect in Minnesota political killings will not face death penalty: DOJ

Prosecutors declined to pursue the ultimate punishment against 58-year-old Boelter because a federal judge ruled earlier this year in an unrelated murder case that interstate stalking charges do not rise to the level to support a capital crime, officials said.

The decision by federal prosecutors not to seek the death penalty stems from a Jan. 30 ruling by New York U.S. District Court Judge Margaret Garnett in the federal murder case against Luigi Mangione, the suspect charged in the December 2024 killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Midtown Manhattan. Mangione has pleaded not guilty to the charges. Garrett ruled that stalking is not a crime of violence and, therefore, not a predicate to make the killing of Thompson a capital crime.

[For the legal beagles, does that control (or reasonably influence) what happens in Minnesota?]

Boelter has pleaded not guilty to six federal counts, including murder, attempted murder, stalking and other firearms-related charges. He has also pleaded not guilty to murder and attempted murder in state court, where he faces life in prison if convicted.
Federal prosecution just means a Trump pardon.

Has the criminal been tried in state court?
 
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There is real mismanagement of government, and issues to be addressed, overreach will be a problem to all of us. Attempting assassination of anyone is never the right approach in any case. Hence marches for protesting are a fair approach, while courts might be used for rectifying misuse of government as long as cases may be effective.
 
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There is real mismanagement of government, and issues to be addressed, overreach will be a problem to all of us. Attempting assassination of anyone is never the right approach in any case. Hence marches for protesting are a fair approach, while courts might be used for rectifying misuse of government as long as cases may be effective.
What we are beginning to discover, though, is that the courts are toothless.
 
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What we are beginning to discover, though, is that the courts are toothless.

That is the issue, many favorable to Trump are already appointed to positions in courts and other offices in government, it is not all lost still. There are those who will stand up to them all.

Sotomayor Tears Into Supreme Court Over "King" Powers Given to Trump

Justice Sonia Sotomayor delivered a blistering dissent Monday after the Supreme Court's conservative majority handed Trump the power to fire the heads of independent federal agencies at will, a move she warned hands him authority "unknown even to the English Crown."

The 6-3 ruling wiped out a 91-year-old precedent that protected agency leaders overseeing Wall Street, workplace safety, and the airwaves from political firing squads.

Sotomayor wasn't having it.

Joined by Justices Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson, she wrote that the majority had elevated Trump above the other branches of government, turning a duty to enforce the law into "a license to act in defiance of those very laws."

She didn't stop there. Sotomayor accused her colleagues of ignoring two centuries of legal wisdom, writing that the majority believes it knows better than Hamilton, Holmes, Brandeis, and Frankfurter combined.

Her closing line is already everywhere: "The one thing that does appear to be clear going forward is that chaos will follow."

In the same term, the Court handed down a separate ruling preserving the Federal Reserve's independence, for now, a sign the fight over presidential power is far from settled.

Sotomayor's dissent is being read as one of the sharpest rebukes of the Trump era, a reminder that even with the Court stacked against her, she's not backing down from saying exactly what's happening.
 
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