New GOP efforts to make it harder to vote

Say it aint so · Jul 22, 2026

th1bill said:
This is withdrawn from it's context making it one more Communist lie.

Reality for some invokes a cognitive dissonance where some just decide to pull comments out their backside and think it a refutation.

Consultant Guilty Of Conspiracy In Robocalls Case

A jury has found a Republican campaign consultant guilty of conspiracy for 2010 robocalls that prosecutors say were aimed at keeping black voters from the polls during Maryland’s 2010 gubernatorial election.

The jury considering the case of Julius Henson, who worked for Republican former Gov. Robert Ehrlich’s campaign during his rematch with Democratic Gov. Martin O’Malley, handed up the verdict Friday after deliberating for three days.

So one more time. Voter suppression is pretty much a GOP platform. Don't take my word for it. They way too often, as with Maryland case, they say the quiet but patently obvious goal out loud.

Valletta · Jul 22, 2026

Say it aint so said:
Reality for some invokes a cognitive dissonance where some just decide to pull comments out their backside and think it a refutation.

Consultant Guilty Of Conspiracy In Robocalls Case

So one more time. Voter suppression is pretty much a GOP platform. Don't take my word for it. They way too often, as with Maryland case, they say the quiet but patently obvious goal out loud.

Former U.S. Congressman and Philadelphia Political Operative Pleads Guilty to Election Fraud Charges

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edpa/pr/former-us-congressman-and-philadelphia-political-operative-pleads-guilty-election-fraud

Bridgeport election probe expands; four more operatives charged

The charges stem from the handling of absentee ballots during the primary between Bridgeport Mayor Joe Ganim and his challenger John Gomes.

ctmirror.org

Connecticut Democratic official sentenced for ballot fraud

STAMFORD, Conn. (AP) — The former chairperson of a local Democratic Party in Connecticut must serve two years' probation and pay a $35,000 fine for fraudulently submitting absentee applications and ballots for dozens of people without their knowledge during a local election.

apnews.com

Janet Reed, an Evansville Democratic Party activist, was charged by the state with one count of unauthorized absentee ballot, a felony offense.

https://electionfraud.heritage.org/case/200826

abc27 News

A Pennsylvania man won't face jailtime following an election fraud conviction in the spring....

www.facebook.com

Dale · Jul 22, 2026

Valletta said:
Former U.S. Congressman and Philadelphia Political Operative Pleads Guilty to Election Fraud Charges

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edpa/pr/former-us-congressman-and-philadelphia-political-operative-pleads-guilty-election-fraud

Bridgeport election probe expands; four more operatives charged

The charges stem from the handling of absentee ballots during the primary between Bridgeport Mayor Joe Ganim and his challenger John Gomes.

ctmirror.org

Connecticut Democratic official sentenced for ballot fraud

STAMFORD, Conn. (AP) — The former chairperson of a local Democratic Party in Connecticut must serve two years' probation and pay a $35,000 fine for fraudulently submitting absentee applications and ballots for dozens of people without their knowledge during a local election.

apnews.com

Janet Reed, an Evansville Democratic Party activist, was charged by the state with one count of unauthorized absentee ballot, a felony offense.

https://electionfraud.heritage.org/case/200826

abc27 News

A Pennsylvania man won't face jailtime following an election fraud conviction in the spring....

www.facebook.com

You summarize these stories. More important, you don't say what conclusions you draw from them.

Say it aint so · Jul 23, 2026

Valletta said:
Former U.S. Congressman and Philadelphia Political Operative Pleads Guilty to Election Fraud Charges

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edpa/pr/former-us-congressman-and-philadelphia-political-operative-pleads-guilty-election-fraud

Bridgeport election probe expands; four more operatives charged

The charges stem from the handling of absentee ballots during the primary between Bridgeport Mayor Joe Ganim and his challenger John Gomes.

ctmirror.org

Connecticut Democratic official sentenced for ballot fraud

STAMFORD, Conn. (AP) — The former chairperson of a local Democratic Party in Connecticut must serve two years' probation and pay a $35,000 fine for fraudulently submitting absentee applications and ballots for dozens of people without their knowledge during a local election.

apnews.com

Janet Reed, an Evansville Democratic Party activist, was charged by the state with one count of unauthorized absentee ballot, a felony offense.

https://electionfraud.heritage.org/case/200826

abc27 News

A Pennsylvania man won't face jailtime following an election fraud conviction in the spring....

www.facebook.com

Which none are blatant attempts to voter suppress....specially by race. To help you out in understanding the difference and my point, I am willing to provide another example:

North Carolina NAACP v. McCrory

The federal court in Richmond found that the primary purpose of North Carolina's wasn't to stop voter fraud, but rather to disenfranchise minority voters. The judges found that the provisions "target African Americans with almost surgical precision."

In particular, the court found that North Carolina lawmakers requested data on racial differences in voting behaviors in the state. "This data showed that African Americans disproportionately lacked the most common kind of photo ID, those issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)," the judges wrote.

They literally sought data on the voting patterns on Blacks, and then wrote legislation to mitigate those patterns in their favor.

Hope that helps, but I doubt it will

tz620q · Jul 23, 2026

Say it aint so said:
Yes, it is just coincidence every effort to suppress the vote has the GOP behind it.

“The first and most desired outcome is voter suppression.” The goal was to have “African-American voters stay home” and to “promote confusion, emotionalism and frustration among African American voters.” --Republican Bob Ehrich.

This quote was not from Bob Ehrlich; but from a consultant that he hired to analyze what he should do to win the election for Maryland Governor in 2010. He lost. So I don't see how this applies to the whole Republican party or to today's situation about the SAVE Act.

DaisyDay · Jul 23, 2026

tz620q said:
This quote was not from Bob Ehrlich; but from a consultant that he hired to analyze what he should do to win the election for Maryland Governor in 2010. He lost. So I don't see how this applies to the whole Republican party or to today's situation about the SAVE Act.

It just sums it up.

Valletta · Jul 23, 2026

DaisyDay said:
It just sums it up.

Fewer and fewer people are falling for the race card. Most Americans realize there is nothing wrong with voter ID.

Hans Blaster · Jul 23, 2026

Valletta said:
Fewer and fewer people are falling for the race card. Most Americans realize there is nothing wrong with voter ID.

Do we need a card to show we are among the favored races to vote now?

Dale · Jul 23, 2026

RocksInMyHead said:
There are a few things that figure into it:

1. Time of day. Especially in working-class districts, most people aren't able to vote in-person until after ~5PM. Most employers do not give paid time off for voting, so people can't afford to do it during normal business hours. This can lead to a heavy rush and long lines in the evening. Conversely, if you can go in the morning or when most people are at work, lines may be short to non-existent.

2. Availability of early and/or mail voting. The easier and more convenient it is to vote early or by mail, the shorter lines will be on election day.

3. Lack of polling places. This report is a bit dated, but it shows over 1000 polling places closed between 2012 and 2018, frequently in districts with a high percentage of black residents. Some counties in Georgia, which is where a lot of the images of very long lines came from, closed over 80% of their polling places. Several counties were reduced to just one polling place.

Valletta said:
In many blue states it has become popular to disenfranchise voters by holding primaries earlier and earlier. In this way the Democratic Party leadership can made decisions on candidates to avoid the democratic process as much as possible.

The Democracy Gap: Reforming California’s Primaries

www.commoncause.org

I’m sure that time of day has something to do with it but it looks like there is a problem in minority neighborhoods.

The Brennan Center for Justice did a report on Election Day Long Lines in 2014. There is little reason to think things have improved since 2014.

A few quotes from the Executive Summary:

“For example, in South Carolina, the 10 precincts with the longest waits had, on average, more than twice the percentage of black registered voters (64 percent) than the statewide average (27 percent).”

“Voters in precincts with higher percentages of minority voters tended to have fewer machines.”

“...states where voters faced some of the longest lines in the country in 2012: Florida, Maryland, and South Carolina.”

Source:
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/election-day-long-lines-resource-allocation

Aldebaran · Jul 23, 2026

Hans Blaster said:
Do we need a card to show we are among the favored races to vote now?

All races vote. It's only a fictional notion that certain people can't vote because of which skin color they have.

Aldebaran · Jul 23, 2026

Pommer said:
If these laws don’t make it more difficult for a citizen to vote, the how do they “protect” election security”
(Also your link is (nearly) a decade old, and might be outdated?)

The same way having a lock on your house ensures security for your home in that only those with authorized access are allowed to enter. Having that lock only makes it more difficult for the people who are not supposed to enter your house. Sure, the owner has to use the key to get into his home, But I would hardly call that making it more difficult to enter his own home. It's no different with election security and requiring a voter to simply show his ID and proof of citizenship. It does not make it more difficult for them to vote. It only makes it more difficult for those who are not supposed to be voting in our elections. And that's the way it should be anyway.

A2SG · Jul 23, 2026

Aldebaran said:
The same way having a lock on your house ensures security for your home in that only those with authorized access are allowed to enter. Having that lock only makes it more difficult for the people who are not supposed to enter your house. Sure, the owner has to use the key to get into his home, But I would hardly call that making it more difficult to enter his own home. It's no different with election security and requiring a voter to simply show his ID and proof of citizenship. It does not make it more difficult for them to vote. It only makes it more difficult for those who are not supposed to be voting in our elections. And that's the way it should be anyway.

It's one thing to put the lock on your own door yourself, but in this case, it's the GOP putting locks on everyone's door, and then trying to make it harder for some people to obtain the key. Or ensure that there's a long line before you can open the door.

-- A2SG, also, to further the analogy, in an area where crime is exceptionally low....

Vambram · Jul 23, 2026

Aldebaran said:
All races vote. It's only a fictional notion that certain people can't vote because of which skin color they have.

Amen

DaisyDay · Jul 24, 2026

Valletta said:
Fewer and fewer people are falling for the race card. Most Americans realize there is nothing wrong with voter ID.

Most people have no problem with the idea of voter id per se, until it is implemented to suppress voting or voting by certain demographics.

Valletta · Jul 24, 2026

DaisyDay said:
Most people have no problem with the idea of voter id per se, until it is implemented to suppress voting or voting by certain demographics.

The vote suppression tale is simply a false accusation. So many Americans have put in a good honest effort, over 100,000 observers,etc. to make sure elections are held honestly. If anyone comes forward and says they can't vote because they don't have ID there are millions of people out there willing to help.

DaisyDay · Jul 24, 2026

Valletta said:
The vote suppression tale is simply a false accusation.

No, it's well documented.

Valletta said:
So many Americans have put in a good honest effort, over 100,000 observers,etc. to make sure elections are held honestly.

As the elections have been for the vast most part. Which is why Trump and MAGA constantly maintaining that elections have been stolen is not just hollow but actively, maliciously a lie. It has gotten to the point that members and potential members of his administration cannot, will not, say that Biden received more votes than he did or that Biden won the 2020 election (held while Trump was in office).

Valletta said:
If anyone comes forward and says they can't vote because they don't have ID there are millions of people out there willing to help.

Lols, yeah right.

Say it aint so · Jul 24, 2026

tz620q said:
This quote was not from Bob Ehrlich; but from a consultant that he hired to analyze what he should do to win the election for Maryland Governor in 2010. He lost. So I don't see how this applies to the whole Republican party or to today's situation about the SAVE Act.

Got it. Corrected. Yet a distinction without a difference. And the co-founder of the Heritage Foundation? The NC GOP legislators?
I kind of recall Trump saying the mail in voting he uses hurts republicans, so thus he and the GOP want to do away with it.

My point remains the same and I can cite other Republicans who say the quiet part out loud.

Wisconsin, Todd Allbaugh, 46, a Republican state legislator asst:

I was in the closed Senate Republican Caucus when the final round of multiple Voter ID bills were being discussed. A handful of the GOP Senators were giddy about the ramifications and literally singled out the prospects of suppressing minority and college voters. Think about that for a minute. Elected officials planning and happy to help deny a fellow American’s constitutional right to vote in order to increase their own chances to hang onto power.

same article:

In Florida, both the state’s former Republican Party chairman, Jim Greer, and its former Republican governor, Charlie Crist, told The Palm Beach Post in 2012 that the state’s voter ID law was devised to suppress Democratic votes. Mr. Greer told The Post: “The Republican Party, the strategists, the consultants, they firmly believe that early voting is bad for Republican Party candidates. It’s done for one reason and one reason only,” he said. Consultants told him “we’ve got to cut down on early voting because early voting is not good for us,” he said.

Say it aint so · Jul 24, 2026

Aldebaran said:
All races vote. It's only a fictional notion that certain people can't vote because of which skin color they have.

That's true. But what do you call it when one party literally takes data on the voting pattern of voters, based on race, and then enacts legislation to make more difficult to employ those patterns? Or is that fiction?

Dale · Jul 24, 2026

Valletta said:
In many blue states it has become popular to disenfranchise voters by holding primaries earlier and earlier. In this way the Democratic Party leadership can made decisions on candidates to avoid the democratic process as much as possible.

The Democracy Gap: Reforming California’s Primaries

www.commoncause.org

The reason states want to hold their primaries earlier is to increase their state's influence on their party's nomination. If a candidate has already sewed up the nomination, and then your state holds its primary, you feel that you didn't get to vote on the nomination. For decades, New Hampshire was thought to be a very important state in Presidential nominations, not because of its size, but simply because NH voted early, while the nomination was still being decided.

Dale · Jul 24, 2026

Valletta said:
The reality is that less people vote during the summer. The Democrat leaders know that. The major media works with them hand in hand, suppressing information that would get more of the opposition out there.

False, the GOP is not about voter suppression. Remember how many Democrats came out and said many blacks don't have ID? Once conservative media went out and interviewed blacks and played the videos on conservative media that myth was debunked. The truth is the GOP has been pushing election integrity.

Valletta:: "Remember how many Democrats came out and said many blacks don't have ID?"

I've never heard anyone say that blacks tend not to have ID. I have heard that women have a problem because their names have changed. That means their present name isn't the same as the name on their birth certificate. Of course, anyone can have a name change problem if their parents got divorced and their name was changed for that reason. A woman's name can change because of marriage, and divorce.

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