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Words have meaning.AND where in. the bible did you find that RULE ??
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Words have meaning.AND where in. the bible did you find that RULE ??
AND there is a GREEK WORD FOR WATER CALLED HYDOR. and where does t say it is IMPLIED. in. the BIBLE. ??Water is always implied, unless it specifically says otherwise.
And I only recognize verses Witten in. the bible !!Both the cloud and the sea are water. Do you see a biblical pattern emerging here?
I use an iPhone & ask for translations of English words to Greek in Greek script & phonetic Latin letters. I copy, paste, & provide links to and from the sources.And never said. that I speak GREEK and I do not have a computer to print Greek words BUT when. I check a word it shows
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And how were thousand ISRAELITE BAPTIZED UNTO MOSES. and here as in. other verse , were IDENIFIED withAnd I only recognize verses Witten in. the bible !!
And it says that they were BAPTIZED unto ( togather. ). UNTO MOSES in. the CLOUD and in the sea ??
SO you see a PATTERN so give a TRY ??
dan p
AND in Eph 4:5 b says :I use an iPhone & ask for translations of English words to Greek in Greek script & phonetic Latin letters. I copy, paste, & provide links to and from the sources.
Immersion in water is part of the Christian definition of baptism in its various expressions ( like tense etc.) of the Greek words of baptism. Baptism is a transliteration of a distinct Greek word to English. As I posted in a different thread, which I guess you did not see:
βαπτίζονται (from the Greek root baptizo - βαπτίζω) translates to "they are baptized" or "they immerse" in English. [1, 2]
Phonetic Pronunciation
Meaning & Context
The word comes from the root verb βαπτίζω(baptizo), which originally means "to immerse," "to submerge," or "to dip". In a religious or ceremonial context, it refers to the act of fully submerging or washing someone in water to cleanse or initiate them into a faith. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5
My scripture references are from a bilingual Greek-English Bible from a Greek Orthodox website.
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Ch 15 - 1st Epistle to the Corinthians - - The New Testament
www.ellopos.net
Do you speak Greek?
And never said that I write or speak Greek BUT BLUE LETTER. BIBLE helps and there is BIBLE HUB. !!You don't actually know Greek, do you.
No, and neither would I presume to claim understanding of the language nor post anything in Spanish while pretending I could understand what I was posting.Do. you speak or write SPANISH. ?/
And I ALWAYS use BLUE LETTER BIBLE. has all the GREEK WORDS to explain and verse and in. the other give allYou just apply your disconnected whims as your rules. If someone said Burger King and McDonald’s are 2 fast food burger chains, you would say it is wrong to state McDonald’s is one because the word “burger” isn’t in the name. If someone provided physical evidence otherwise, your imagination already has said it is false to say McDonald’s is a burger chain.
You can’t even give an honest answer to a straightforward question on whether you speak any Greek.
Proverbs 14:7
I don’t think you are a liar or dishonest and don’t even try to reject your doctrine. It is your insistence on undermining the commonly held understanding of the role of witness involving water baptism in its relation to baptism of the Spirit I object to. From this you seem to embrace a legalism that has no foundation to justify it. A sensible reading or preaching of 1 John 5:1-13 should help sort this out.And I ALWAYS use BLUE LETTER BIBLE. has all the GREEK WORDS to explain and verse and in. the other give all
Hebrew !! And you are saying that I. do not GIVE no honest answer. , REALLY. and that I am LYING. ??
And not one time have I ever have said that I. SPEAK GREEK. FROM A GREEK BIBLE
dan p
AND it seem that I just wrote on. 2 Peter 3:16 and it just disappeard and took me 2 days and it all. is gone !!I use an iPhone & ask for translations of English words to Greek in Greek script & phonetic Latin letters. I copy, paste, & provide links to and from the sources.
Immersion in water is part of the Christian definition of baptism in its various expressions ( like tense etc.) of the Greek words of baptism. Baptism is a transliteration of a distinct Greek word to English. As I posted in a different thread, which I guess you did not see:
βαπτίζονται (from the Greek root baptizo - βαπτίζω) translates to "they are baptized" or "they immerse" in English. [1, 2]
Phonetic Pronunciation
Meaning & Context
The word comes from the root verb βαπτίζω(baptizo), which originally means "to immerse," "to submerge," or "to dip". In a religious or ceremonial context, it refers to the act of fully submerging or washing someone in water to cleanse or initiate them into a faith. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5
My scripture references are from a bilingual Greek-English Bible from a Greek Orthodox website.
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Ch 15 - 1st Epistle to the Corinthians - - The New Testament
www.ellopos.net
Pro tip: write your posts in notepad or some other app that doesn't rely on internet, then copy and paste into your forum reply. I've had the same happen to me a few times.AND it seem that I just wrote om 2 Peter 3:16 and kit just disappeard and not took me 2 days and it all. is gone !!
If you don't like your views being challenged by other viewpoints then ChristianForums is probably not for you.and will be looking for another FORUM. and I guess some want me gone ,
And like when CHALLENGED , but resent when. they say that I do not speak the truth. . BECASE. I mainly use ENGLISHPro tip: write your posts in notepad or some other app that doesn't rely on internet, then copy and paste into your forum reply. I've had the same happen to me a few times.
If you don't like your views being challenged by other viewpoints then ChristianForums is probably not for you.
AND number 1 , How were the thousand JEWS BAPTIZED UNTO MOSES ??Both the cloud and the sea are water. Do you see a biblical pattern emerging here?
AND THE OP is Mark 16:16 and what does that man ??Water is always implied, unless it specifically says otherwise.
And if you check BLUE LETTER BIBLE YOU WILL SEE HOW much Greek I knowYou don't actually know Greek, do you.
Read ACTS 19:6 and see what it means !!I don’t think you are a liar or dishonest and don’t even try to reject your doctrine. It is your insistence on undermining the commonly held understanding of the role of witness involving water baptism in its relation to baptism of the Spirit I object to. From this you seem to embrace a legalism that has no foundation to justify it. A sensible reading or preaching of 1 John 5:1-13 should help sort this out.
What you keep saying is similar to sabbath keepers who insist on the Sabbath Day as worship. At least they have a solid foundation to justify their doctrine ( Genesis 2:1-3, Exodus 20:8 etc.). We can worship on the Sabbath or the Resurrection ( Matthew 28:1-9, 1 Corinthians 5:7-9, Matthew 12:1-8 etc.).
We should keep our faith understandings firm within the particular community we worship. This issue of the form of water baptism as witness or not falls within the area of Christian liberty that Paul speaks of in Galatians 5:1-26. If your tradition doesn’t practice it: fine. Saying others who maintain it and preach another gospel ( Galatians 1:8-9 etc.), not fine ( Matthew 7:1-6 etc.).