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WATER BAPTISM DOESN'T WASH AWAY OUR SINS

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BECAUSE all. of Israel. did not know all about Acts 1:5 and most of those who love water BAPTISM. just love WATER BAP[TISM. even if the word WATER //. HYDOR is NOT in. that verse ??
Philip would absolutely have known about Acts 1:5. He was hand picked as one of the seven deacons along with Stephen who became the first Christian martyr. Philip was being directly led by the Holy Spirit, yet you claim he must have been ignorant.
And have one for you. in. Mark 16:16 says He that BELIEVETH and is BAPTIZED (. NO WATER // HYDOR ). shall be Saved

BUT he that BELIEVETH not shall DAMNNETH. !!

WHAT. sy you ??
I already responded to that earlier.
 
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But quoting other parts of Acts doesn't answer Prodromos's question about Philip and the Ethiopian in Acts 8. It reminds me of how you replied to my question about Paul baptising Crispus, Gaius and the household of Stephanas. You talked of Gaius being a travelling companion of Paul, and didn't mention his baptism.
AND this will. be the third time that I have answered and how are you missing me and here we begin again !!

And in. Acts 19:29 GAIUS a nd Aristarchus and Macedonians. fellow travelers of Paul. and IT seems that there two

believe what Paul believes !!

And in. ACTS 18:8. were believing. and were being BAPTIZED. BY HOLY SPIRIT by. Acts 1:5 !!

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AND this will. be the third time that I have answered and how are you missing me and here we begin again !!

And in. Acts 19:29 GAIUS a nd Aristarchus and Macedonians. fellow travelers of Paul. and IT seems that there two

believe what Paul believes !!

And in. ACTS 18:8. were believing. and were being BAPTIZED. BY HOLY SPIRIT by. Acts 1:5 !!

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But what does the fact that Gaius and Aristarchus were fellow travellers of Paul have to do with how Paul baptised Crispus, Gaius and the household of Stephanas?

(1Co 1:14-16 NKJV) I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other.

It cannot be baptism of the Holy Spirit, because only God can do that.
 
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Philip would absolutely have known about Acts 1:5. He was hand picked as one of the seven deacons along with Stephen who became the first Christian martyr. Philip was being directly led by the Holy Spirit, yet you claim he must have been ignorant.

I already responded to that earlier.
And what # number did you write it ON ??

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But what does the fact that Gaius and Aristarchus were fellow travellers of Paul have to do with how Paul baptised Crispus, Gaius and the household of Stephanas?

(1Co 1:14-16 NKJV) I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other.

It cannot be baptism of the Holy Spirit, because only God can do that.
And by the HOLY SPIRIT Paul wrote ::

# 1 AND //. KAI. isa a CONJUNCTION

# 2 WHEN PAUL //. PAULOS in the. GENITIVE CASE ins. the SINGULAR

#3. HAD LAID // EPITITEMI. in. the AORIST TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE in. the GENITIVE CASE in. th SINGULAR

#4 HANDS. //. CHEIR. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE. in. the SINGULAR

#5 UPON. //. EPITIT. in. the AORIST TENSE in. the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

# 6 THEM. // AUTOS is a. PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN. in. the DATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#7 THE // HO in. the NOMINATIVE CASE. in the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER

#8 HOLY // HAGIOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER. , meaning MALE and FEMALE

#9 SPIRIT //. PNEUMA. in. th NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER

#10 CAME //. ERCHOMAI. in. the AORIST TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the SINGULAR

#11 ON // EPI is a PREPOSTION

#12. THEM //. AUTOS is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN. in the ACCUATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#13 AND // TE is a DISJUNCTIVE PARTICLE

#14. THEY SPAKE //. LALEO. in. th IMPERFECT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the PLURAL

#15. WITH TONGUES //. GLOSSA. in. the DATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#16. AND // KAI. is a CONJUNCION

#17 PROPHESIED. //. PROPHETEUO. in. the IMPREFECT TENSE in. the PLURAL

AND like what Peter said , that what Paul w rote is HARD to understand , WHICH UNTAUGHT. and UNSTABLE

PEOPLE TWIST. to their own Destruction, as they. all so. the REST off the Scripture 2. Peter 3;16 !!

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AND like what Peter said , that what Paul w rote is HARD to understand , WHICH UNTAUGHT. and UNSTABLE PEOPLE TWIST. to their own Destruction, as they. all so. the REST off the Scripture 2. Peter 3;16 !!
Of course this doesn't apply to you, only the people who disagree with Pope Dan.
 
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And by the HOLY SPIRIT Paul wrote ::

# 1 AND //. KAI. isa a CONJUNCTION

# 2 WHEN PAUL //. PAULOS in the. GENITIVE CASE ins. the SINGULAR

#3. HAD LAID // EPITITEMI. in. the AORIST TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE in. the GENITIVE CASE in. th SINGULAR

#4 HANDS. //. CHEIR. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE. in. the SINGULAR

#5 UPON. //. EPITIT. in. the AORIST TENSE in. the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

# 6 THEM. // AUTOS is a. PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN. in. the DATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#7 THE // HO in. the NOMINATIVE CASE. in the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER

#8 HOLY // HAGIOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER. , meaning MALE and FEMALE

#9 SPIRIT //. PNEUMA. in. th NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER

#10 CAME //. ERCHOMAI. in. the AORIST TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the SINGULAR

#11 ON // EPI is a PREPOSTION

#12. THEM //. AUTOS is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN. in the ACCUATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#13 AND // TE is a DISJUNCTIVE PARTICLE

#14. THEY SPAKE //. LALEO. in. th IMPERFECT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the PLURAL

#15. WITH TONGUES //. GLOSSA. in. the DATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#16. AND // KAI. is a CONJUNCION

#17 PROPHESIED. //. PROPHETEUO. in. the IMPREFECT TENSE in. the PLURAL

AND like what Peter said , that what Paul w rote is HARD to understand , WHICH UNTAUGHT. and UNSTABLE

PEOPLE TWIST. to their own Destruction, as they. all so. the REST off the Scripture 2. Peter 3;16 !!

dan p
Two things strike me. First, Acts 19:6 is about Christians at Ephesus, not Gaius (who came from Derbe), Crispus (from Corinth) or the household of Stephanas (also from Corinth). Second, the laying on of hands did not impart the Holy Spirit, like some sort of magical procedure. Laying on of hands is nowhere called the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
 
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Two things strike me. First, Acts 19:6 is about Christians at Ephesus, not Gaius (who came from Derbe), Crispus (from Corinth) or the household of Stephanas (also from Corinth). Second, the laying on of hands did not impart the Holy Spirit, like some sort of magical procedure. Laying on of hands is nowhere called the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Also, they were baptised first, and then Paul laid hands on them, after which they received the Holy Spirit. So clearly their baptism was not a "baptism of the Holy Spirit", since they did not receive the Holy Spirit until after, and the only other baptism described in Scripture involves water.
 
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Philip would absolutely have known about Acts 1:5. He was hand picked as one of the seven deacons along with Stephen who became the first Christian martyr. Philip was being directly led by the Holy Spirit, yet you claim he must have been ignorant.

I already responded to that earlier.

REALLY and where can. I see that POST number ??

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Philip would absolutely have known about Acts 1:5. He was hand picked as one of the seven deacons along with Stephen who became the first Christian martyr. Philip was being directly led by the Holy Spirit, yet you claim he must have been ignorant.

I already responded to that earlier.

REALLY and where can. I see that POST number ??

dan p
Two things strike me. First, Acts 19:6 is about Christians at Ephesus, not Gaius (who came from Derbe), Crispus (from Corinth) or the household of Stephanas (also from Corinth). Second, the laying on of hands did not impart the Holy Spirit, like some sort of magical procedure. Laying on of hands is nowhere called the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Also, they were baptised first, and then Paul laid hands on them, after which they received the Holy Spirit. So clearly their baptism was not a "baptism of the Holy Spirit", since they did not receive the Holy Spirit until after, and the only other baptism described in Scripture involves water.
And in Act 19:6. ays and PAL LAID HANDS upon. them THEV HOLY SPIRT. came upon them and they were

SPEAKNG LANGUAGES. and were PROPHESYING. and it seems that YOU MISSED a lot of ACTS 19;6. !!

and why not see what ACTS 19:6 HOW MUCH YOU. MISSED DAVID ??
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REALLY and where can. I see that POST number ??

dan p


And in Act 19:6. ays and PAL LAID HANDS upon. them THEV HOLY SPIRT. came upon them and they were

SPEAKNG LANGUAGES. and were PROPHESYING. and it seems that YOU MISSED a lot of ACTS 19;6. !!

and why not see what ACTS 19:6 HOW MUCH YOU. MISSED DAVID ??
dan p
So tell me Dan. Are you saying that one Christian can baptise another Christian with the baptism of the Holy Spirit?
 
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Of course this doesn't apply to you, only the people who disagree with Pope Dan.
So tell me Dan. Are you saying that one Christian can baptise another Christian with the baptism of the Holy Spirit?
And I will write what ACTS 19:6 what LUKE wrote by the HOLY SPIRT. and not by. DAN P. !!
#1 AND // KAI is a CONJUNCTION

#2 WHEN PAUL //. PAULOS is in. the GENIYE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#3 HAD LAID // APITITEM. in. the AORIST TENSE , means. the PAST. TENSE. invvthe GENITIVE CASE. in. the SINGULAR

#4. HANDS. // CHEIR in. the ACUSATIVE CASE in. th PLURAL

#5 UPON. // EPITITHM. in. the AORIT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE in. the GENITIVE CASE. in. the SINGULAR

#6 THEM AUTOS. is a. PRSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN. in. the DATIVE CASE. in. the PLURAL

#7 THE // HO is a DEFINITE ARTICLE. in. t NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR in. te NEUTER

#8 HOLY // HAGIOS in. the NOMINATIVE CASE. in the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER

#9. SPIRIT. // PNEUMA in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR. in. he NEUTER

#10. CAME // ERCHOMAI in. the AORIT TENSE in. th ACIVE VOICE in the INDICATIVE MOOD in the SINGULAR

#11 ON. //. EPI. is a PREPOSTION

#12 THEM. //. AUTOS. is a PRSONAL POSSESIVE PRONOUN. is a ACCUSAIVE CASE in the. PLURAL

#13 THEY SPAKE //. LALEO. in. the IMPERFECT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE. in. the PURAL

#14 WITH TONGUS //. GLOSSA in. the. DATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

# 15. AN. // KAI. is a CONJUNCTION

#16 PROPHESIED. //. POPHOIOUS. in. the IMPECFECT TENSE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the PLURAL

And. it the first time that I have read ACTS 19:6. !!!

And when are in. HEAVEN you can ask Paul ??

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#1 AND // KAI is a CONJUNCTION

#2 WHEN PAUL //. PAULOS is in. the GENIYE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#3 HAD LAID // APITITEM. in. the AORIST TENSE , means. the PAST. TENSE. invvthe GENITIVE CASE. in. the SINGULAR

#4. HANDS. // CHEIR in. the ACUSATIVE CASE in. th PLURAL

#5 UPON. // EPITITHM. in. the AORIT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE in. the GENITIVE CASE. in. the SINGULAR

#6 THEM AUTOS. is a. PRSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN. in. the DATIVE CASE. in. the PLURAL

#7 THE // HO is a DEFINITE ARTICLE. in. t NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR in. te NEUTER

#8 HOLY // HAGIOS in. the NOMINATIVE CASE. in the SINGULAR in. the NEUTER

#9. SPIRIT. // PNEUMA in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR. in. he NEUTER

#10. CAME // ERCHOMAI in. the AORIT TENSE in. th ACIVE VOICE in the INDICATIVE MOOD in the SINGULAR

#11 ON. //. EPI. is a PREPOSTION

#12 THEM. //. AUTOS. is a PRSONAL POSSESIVE PRONOUN. is a ACCUSAIVE CASE in the. PLURAL

#13 THEY SPAKE //. LALEO. in. the IMPERFECT TENSE in. the ACTIVE VOICE. in. the PURAL

#14 WITH TONGUS //. GLOSSA in. the. DATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

# 15. AN. // KAI. is a CONJUNCTION

#16 PROPHESIED. //. POPHOIOUS. in. the IMPECFECT TENSE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the PLURAL

And. it the first time that I have read ACTS 19:6. !!!

And when are in. HEAVEN you can ask Paul ??

dan p
Instead of reposting Bible verses with the sentences split up, and many words written in capital letters, why can you not simply answer the question I asked: With what baptism did Paul baptise Crispus, Gaius and the household of Sephanas? If you say, "with the baptism of the Holy Spirit," I would further ask, how can a man (in this case Paul) baptise anybody with the Holy Spirit?
 
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Two things strike me. First, Acts 19:6 is about Christians at Ephesus, not Gaius (who came from Derbe), Crispus (from Corinth) or the household of Stephanas (also from Corinth). Second, the laying on of hands did not impart the Holy Spirit, like some sort of magical procedure. Laying on of hands is nowhere called the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
# 0 IN Rom 16:23 reads from. KJV !!

# 1 GAIUS. // GAIOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE. in. the SINULAR meaning ONLY one Gaius

#2 MINE // MOU is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN. in. the GENIIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#3. HOST // XENOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#4 AND // KAI is a CONJUNCTION

#5 OF THE // HO. is a DEFINITE ARTICLE in the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#6 WHOLE. // HOLOS. in the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR.

#7 CHURCH //. EKKLESIA. in. the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#8 SALUTETH. //. ASPAZOMAI. in the PRESENT TENSE in. the MIDDLE VOICE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD. in the SINGULAR

#9 YOU // HYMAS. is a PERSONAL POSSESSISE PRONOUN. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#10. ERASTUS //. ERATOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in th SINGULAR

#11 THE // HO is a DEFINITE ARTICLE in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#12 CHAMBRLAIN // in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#13 OF THE // is a DEFINITE ARTICLE. in the GENITIVE CASE. in the SINGULAR

#14 CITY // POLIS. in. the GENITIVE CASE in the SINGULAR

#15 SALUTETH. //. ASPAZOMI. in the PRESENT TENSE in. the MIDDLE VOICE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the SINGULAR

#16. YOU //. HYMAS. is a PERSONAL. POSSESSISIVE PONOUN in. th PLURAL

#17 AND // KAI is a CONJUNCTION

#18 QUARTUS. // KOUARTOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#19 A // HO is a DEFINITE ARTICLE. is a NOMINATIVE CASE in the SINGULAR

#20. BROTHER. // ADELPHOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

I rest my case !!

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Instead of reposting Bible verses with the sentences split up, and many words written in capital letters, why can you not simply answer the question I asked: With what baptism did Paul baptise Crispus, Gaius and the household of Sephanas? If you say, "with the baptism of the Holy Spirit," I would further ask, how can a man (in this case Paul) baptise anybody with the Holy Spirit?
AND YOU ARE IMBEDED IN WATER BAPTISM and you just one of many !!

And when you READ. Acts 19:6. and just say yes OR no , just asking ??

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AND WHY NOT. and you have a. VERSE of some kind. ??

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Almost all the ancient heresies quoted Scripture to support their beliefs. It was not the Scripture that was wrong but instead their erroneous interpretation of those Scriptures. Posting a verse without explaining how you interpret it proves nothing, only that you probably interpret those Scriptures differently to how others interpret them.
 
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# 0 IN Rom 16:23 reads from. KJV !!

# 1 GAIUS. // GAIOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE. in. the SINULAR meaning ONLY one Gaius

#2 MINE // MOU is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN. in. the GENIIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#3. HOST // XENOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#4 AND // KAI is a CONJUNCTION

#5 OF THE // HO. is a DEFINITE ARTICLE in the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#6 WHOLE. // HOLOS. in the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR.

#7 CHURCH //. EKKLESIA. in. the GENITIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#8 SALUTETH. //. ASPAZOMAI. in the PRESENT TENSE in. the MIDDLE VOICE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD. in the SINGULAR

#9 YOU // HYMAS. is a PERSONAL POSSESSISE PRONOUN. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

#10. ERASTUS //. ERATOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in th SINGULAR

#11 THE // HO is a DEFINITE ARTICLE in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#12 CHAMBRLAIN // in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#13 OF THE // is a DEFINITE ARTICLE. in the GENITIVE CASE. in the SINGULAR

#14 CITY // POLIS. in. the GENITIVE CASE in the SINGULAR

#15 SALUTETH. //. ASPAZOMI. in the PRESENT TENSE in. the MIDDLE VOICE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the SINGULAR

#16. YOU //. HYMAS. is a PERSONAL. POSSESSISIVE PONOUN in. th PLURAL

#17 AND // KAI is a CONJUNCTION

#18 QUARTUS. // KOUARTOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

#19 A // HO is a DEFINITE ARTICLE. is a NOMINATIVE CASE in the SINGULAR

#20. BROTHER. // ADELPHOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

I rest my case !!

dan p
What case? My post was about Acts 19:6 being about Christians at Ephesus, not Gaius (who came from Derbe), Crispus (from Corinth) or the household of Stephanas (also from Corinth), and that the laying on of hands is not the actual baptism of the Holy Spirit. How does quoting Romans 16:23, slitting it up and giving a grammatical analysis of it in CAPITAL LETTERS, answer either of my points? As I understand it, Paul was in Corinth when he wrote Romans, staying with Gaius, who came from there. The verse says nothing that answers my first point ( about Acts 19:6 referring to Christians at Ephesus) or my second (about the laying on of hands not being the actual baptism of the Holy Spirit).
 
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