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Former Olympian among those charged with vandalizing Reflecting Pool

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The American Flag Blue has morphed into Confederate Gray. The pool has been re-drained for maintenance and repair. That looks like bare concrete with tidewrack (not tire tracks). Blue pigments, and blue dyes even more, are too often fugitive when exposed to UV or strong sunlight.

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President Donald Trump said the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool was drained Monday, as he doubled down on his administration’s claims that the floor of the pool had been slashed by “vandals.”

...In a follow-up post an hour later, the president lashed out at ABC News and anchor David Muir’s coverage of the pool being drained for repairs. The president insisted that there was no “peeling paint” but rather “high-grade colored waterproofing liner” that was slashed by either a “knife, or box cutter.” The president’s post again didn’t include any evidence to back his claims of vandalism. The president also blamed the recurrence of algae blooms in the pool on purported “vandals,” although it’s unclear how people could be responsible for a recurring issue that has plagued the pool for years. Trump has feuded with ABC and its news division for several years now and has repeatedly touted his $16 million 2024 settlement in a defamation case he filed against the network.
In the meanwhile, people viciously arrested for "vandalism" are still incurring debt and anxiety.


Three people were recently arrested and charged with destruction of property in connection with vandalism at the Reflecting Pool. All three have pleaded not guilty, and the case is pending in D.C. Superior Court.

The investigation also led to felony charges against former U.S. Olympic canoeist David Hearn, who is accused of damaging the pool's newly installed liner during a June incident. Hearn has pleaded not guilty and denies the allegations.
 
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The American Flag Blue has morphed into Confederate Gray. The pool has been re-drained for maintenance and repair. That looks like bare concrete with tidewrack (not tire tracks). Blue pigments, and blue dyes even more, are too often fugitive when exposed to UV or strong sunlight.

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President Donald Trump said the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool was drained Monday, as he doubled down on his administration’s claims that the floor of the pool had been slashed by “vandals.”​
...In a follow-up post an hour later, the president lashed out at ABC News and anchor David Muir’s coverage of the pool being drained for repairs. The president insisted that there was no “peeling paint” but rather “high-grade colored waterproofing liner” that was slashed by either a “knife, or box cutter.” The president’s post again didn’t include any evidence to back his claims of vandalism. The president also blamed the recurrence of algae blooms in the pool on purported “vandals,” although it’s unclear how people could be responsible for a recurring issue that has plagued the pool for years. Trump has feuded with ABC and its news division for several years now and has repeatedly touted his $16 million 2024 settlement in a defamation case he filed against the network.​
In the meanwhile, people viciously arrested for "vandalism" are still incurring debt and anxiety.

Three people were recently arrested and charged with destruction of property in connection with vandalism at the Reflecting Pool. All three have pleaded not guilty, and the case is pending in D.C. Superior Court.​
The investigation also led to felony charges against former U.S. Olympic canoeist David Hearn, who is accused of damaging the pool's newly installed liner during a June incident. Hearn has pleaded not guilty and denies the allegations.​

It's sad the Department of Justice is complicit with arrests of people just sticking their finger in the pool, just to provide cover for Trump's once again self inflicted embarrassment. It is literally something that takes place under authoritarians.
 
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D.C. Superior Court Judge Todd Edelman scheduled the Sept. 28 trial date for David Hearn during a hearing on Monday. It was Hearn’s second court appearance since a grand jury indicted him on a felony count of property destruction.

Hearn, who pleaded not guilty to the charge on July 9, has asked the court to dismiss the case. In a court filing, his attorneys argued the government has failed to properly preserve important physical evidence from the Reflecting Pool.
They're actually going through with it, apparently.
 
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D.C. Superior Court Judge Todd Edelman scheduled the Sept. 28 trial date for David Hearn during a hearing on Monday. It was Hearn’s second court appearance since a grand jury indicted him on a felony count of property destruction.​
Hearn, who pleaded not guilty to the charge on July 9, has asked the court to dismiss the case. In a court filing, his attorneys argued the government has failed to properly preserve important physical evidence from the Reflecting Pool.​
They're actually going through with it, apparently.
(Cough)Sandwich guy outcome(cough)
 
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(Cough)Sandwich guy outcome(cough)
It's just sad they are going to make innocent people go through this whole process that won't work to save Trump from embarrassment.
This is the same DOJ where the second in command is vying for the head of the table.
Those who will vote for him don't care either.
 
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Fixing the pool now may torpedo the vandalism cases if evidence gets spoliated.


A judge warns that a Trump DOJ plan to fix the Reflecting Pool could undermine its own prosecution in Washington, D.C., turning a repair job on the National Mall into a legal conflict over the Reflecting Pool repair effort. The warning matters because prosecutors may need the damaged site as evidence, not just scenery.

The core issue is prejudice: if federal agencies alter or repair the pool before defendants can examine alleged damage, defense lawyers could argue the government changed key evidence while still seeking punishment. That is how a Trump DOJ Reflecting Pool fix meant to restore a landmark could complicate, or even weaken, the prosecution.
 
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The warning matters because prosecutors may need the damaged site as evidence, not just scenery.​
So let me get this straight. They drained the pool to repair the vandalism, which someone has been charged with, but no-one has documented said vandalism as evidence?
 
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So let me get this straight. They drained the pool to repair the vandalism, which someone has been charged with, but no-one has documented said vandalism as evidence?
It’s the ol’ we wouldn’t have brought charges if they weren’t guilty! prosecution.
No evidence? Just make an example out of this one and we won’t need anymore trials!
 
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So let me get this straight. They drained the pool to repair the vandalism, which someone has been charged with, but no-one has documented said vandalism as evidence?
I don't know how they would document what doesn't exist, but they may have. The point is that the defendant and his team are supposed to be able to examine any evidence that is being used against him
 
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Why would they need evidence to make an example out of this guy. They have Trump's claims in a press conference about mile long gashes. Is that not plenty?

They can send the domestic terrorist a video tape.
 
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Why would they need evidence to make an example out of this guy. They have Trump's claims in a press conference about mile long gashes. Is that not plenty?

They can send the domestic terrorist a video tape.
Yep, good point - might as well go full out Banana Republic, authoritarian but definitely not fascist!
 
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Yep, good point - might as well go full out Banana Republic, authoritarian but definitely not fascist!
Don't act like you wouldn't be clapping hands and singing songs if it was left-wing authoritarian. Don't give me your garbage!
 
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Don't act like you wouldn't be clapping hands and singing songs if it was left-wing authoritarian. Don't give me your garbage!
I don't think you're grasping this. Authoritarianism is bad. Period. End of story. It doesn't matter what political colour it is. If you actually think it does makes a difference then that is the problem we have here.

So I may as well ask: Does it make a difference to you?

If you say no then I guarantee everyone will agree with you. If you say yes then we do actually have a problem.
 
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Don't act like you wouldn't be clapping hands and singing songs if it was left-wing authoritarian. Don't give me your garbage!
Is this admission that the current administration is authoritarian? its not something to celebrate no matter the party it’s rooted in.
 
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This dangerous criminal vandal should be tried and executed before the evidence is destroyed by the communist threat our President warned us about.
 
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Don't act like you wouldn't be clapping hands and singing songs if it was left-wing authoritarian. Don't give me your garbage!
The garbage is yours - projection of your views onto me. Knock it off.
 
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