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As I said, "ChatGPT goes along with this theory." It agreed that's how it works.

I fed your argument to chatGPT 5.6 Sol, the latest frontier model, and it replied as follows (and to be clear all the following words are from it, not from me):

I understand that ChatGPT agreed that your theory was plausible. The problem is that an LLM agreeing with a proposed explanation is not independent evidence that the explanation is correct.

ChatGPT is very good at evaluating whether a causal story is coherent. It is also capable of confidently endorsing incorrect descriptions of its own operation, especially when the user supplies a plausible theory and asks whether it fits. I have personally seen ChatGPT invent nonexistent features of its Python environment, so I would not treat its self-description as authoritative merely because it sounds technical.

To establish your theory, one would need evidence such as:

  • the earliest articles or social-media posts making the Achilles claim;
  • evidence that those claims were based on inference from the Hades scene rather than a false production report;
  • examples of particular LLMs producing the claim before it appeared in searchable sources;
  • and some basis for distinguishing web retrieval from hallucination or pretrained association.
Without that evidence, the theory remains plausible but unproven.

There is also an important technical distinction here. A model using web search may repeat a false claim because current sources report it. A model without web access may generate Achilles because that character is strongly associated with Odysseus in Hades. Those are different failure modes, and simply saying “ChatGPT agreed” does not tell us which one occurred.

So my objection is not that your theory is impossible. It is that ChatGPT’s agreement cannot serve as proof of the theory, because the reliability of ChatGPT is the very question under discussion.
 
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chatGPT‘s training data was from mid 2024 as of version 5.5 (I should check if they updated it for 5.6) so with regards to this issue the AI is not actually reasoning about data in its neural network but is rather functioning as a search engine - if it finds articles from credible sources that say Elliot Page is playing Achilles, it will assert that - however - it also provides Sources, so you can track the provenance of the information it provides. Google Gemini also provides its sources and I would assume most modern LLMs do so at this point.

Thus the AI was not predicting what character Elliot Page would play so much as looking it up and then, on the basis of its knowledge of the Odyssey, well, the articles it would have found would have passed an internal sanity check.

Nonetheless, this shows the risks of trying to use an AI as an oracle - AI cannot reliably predict the future even with perfect technology, and so people who ask an AI about future events must understand it is relying on domain-specific information, information subject to change, and what it said should not be regarded as a prediction but rather the assumption based on current information.
You know what--I'm not even sure what point you're making here regarding my post.

I had said, "A good many people say that ChatGPT and other LLMs confirmed that Page would portray Achilles."

I then explained why I believe ChatGPT and other LLMs would "confirm" that Page would portray Achilles--and be wrong. My point was about how people had been misled by their faith in ChatGPT.

ChatGPT agreed with my theory, providing its own reasons (which I did not post) why it would work that way.

Notice: I always called it a theory.
 
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