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Sec State Rubio vows to ‘dismantle’ International Criminal Court

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We don't have to be a signatory in order for the ICC to prosecute American service men and women. You think we're going to allow that?
Yes, because you can't do anything about it. If any are found guilty, of war crimes and such, just don't hand them over. That's it.
Again, we will *not* allow you to force rules on us through coersion, threats, or domination in any form, including some "court" system.

READ THE FOLLOWING LINK:
State Department Launches Campaign to Dismantle International Criminal Court’s Threat to American Sovereignty - United States Department of State https://www.state.gov/releases/offi...riminal-courts-threat-to-american-sovereignty

"The ICC poses an intolerable threat to U.S. sovereignty – it claims the authority to prosecute and even imprison American servicemen and officials operating on behalf of America’s national interest. Americans never signed up for this, and all American presidents since the ICC’s ratification have maintained that the ICC does not have jurisdiction over Americans. The ICC previously opened an investigation into U.S. servicemen and intelligence officers and has since refused to close these cases."
No, you didn't sign up for it, which is why you aren't obligated to give anyone up if convicted or acknowledge the results of the court. But the court is well within it's right to prosecute war crimes, for example, and if someone convicted is found somewhere that is a signatory to the ICC, they can be arrested. So just stay away from those places. The ICC authority works inside the nations signed to it. Literally just ignore it.
 
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You support a foreign court prosecuting American service men and women? You need to pay attention to what you're siding with, if you you're siding with the globalist agenda... Bud.

Read the following link and understand:
https://www.state.gov/releases/offi...riminal-courts-threat-to-american-sovereignty
Im not your ”bud”.

I do know about this as I do have an education and also understands complex things. You clearly do not.

You posting propagande and using scarewords says alot and also informs how serious we should take your opinions.
 
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From the article:

Actions under consideration include:

  • Diplomatic calls from the Secretary of State, Deputy Secretary, ambassadors, and other members of senior leadership to foreign nations highlighting the abuses of the ICC and the risks posed to Americans and other nations urging them to withdraw from the ICC
  • Nations that partner with American law enforcement and the U.S. military or that enjoy the benefits of the U.S. security umbrella are called upon to reject the ICC’s purported authority to prosecute American officials and servicemen
  • Increased scrutiny of nations that refuse to reject the ICC’s false authority while relying on U.S. assistance
  • Diplomatic calls urging other nations that, like America, that are not party to the Rome Statute to leverage their diplomatic networks to take similar actions alongside us
  • Visa revocations and travel bans for ICC personnel
  • Increased sanctions against the ICC and affiliated organizations
 

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The ICC authority works inside the nations signed to it. Literally just ignore it.
No. Instead, we will dismantle it.

We're going to crush your globalism, because you've taken it a step too far. A forbidden line has been crossed.
 

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Im not your ”bud”.

I do know about this as I do have an education and also understands complex things.
You haven't shown that.

But yet, you claim to: "understands complex things"... :rolleyes:
 

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English is not my first language.
I assume you're not an American either then. That would explain why you and the other non-Americans seem to want to try and prosecute American people from somewhere else.

Know that we will never accept it. And now that the ICC has refused to close these cases against our people, the consequences will be severe.
 

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You support a foreign court prosecuting American service men and women?
I support an International Court prosecuting war criminals, whatever their nationality, ethnicity, skin colour, political ideology or religion. I want all war criminals behind bars. No exceptions, no special rules, no immunities, no ifs and buts. All of them.

Are you with me in this or not?
 
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I support an International Court prosecuting war criminals, whatever their nationality, ethnicity, skin colour, political ideology or religion. I want all war criminals behind bars. No exceptions, no special rules, no immunities, no ifs and buts. All of them.

Are you with me in this or not?
Absolutely not!! The United States will not join your globalism, and you will not prosecute our people, period.
 

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Absolutely not!! The United States will not join your globalism, and you will not prosecute our people, period.
If a Belgian were accused of war crimes and I would know where to find him, I would immediately hand him over.
I would have my country cleansed of that kind of filth, purged of these criminals.
Apparently you want to be soft on crime, provide sanctuary to the worst of the worst and let this type of "cancer" fester in your midst.

Your choice.
 
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If a Belgian were accused of war crimes and I would know where to find him, I would immediately hand him over.
I would have my country cleansed of that kind of filth, purged of these criminals.
Apparently you want to be soft on crime, provide sanctuary to the worst of the worst and let this type of "cancer" fester in your midst.

Your choice.
You're going to let someone else decide the rules, and dictate what is or isn't a crime, and then hand over your own people for them to decide? Rather than doing it 'in-house'..? That's not honorable, that's reckless... It's risky... it's naive... And it shows that you don't trust your own government or fellow people, which is pathetic.

People who need watchers watching watchers who watch watchers, and snitch..? Are no friends of mine.
 
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hand over your own people for them to decide?
A war criminal will never be "one of my own people".
That might be different for you. I want that kind to be removed.
 
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A war criminal will never be "one of my own people".
That might be different for you. I want that kind to be removed.
You'll let others decide what a war criminal is, from some other country, according to their own self interests. They will fine tune the controls down the line, and change the rules as they go without your approval, or by persuasion, and you'll become their subject over time. You'll be fully under their control, with no way to escape, without becoming a "war criminal" yourself.

...Whoever owns that kind of power, can control the world. I want no part in that mess. Europeans are too infatuated with rules, and big government control. This is just more lust for authoritarian power.

...The U.S. will crush it as a complimentary gift for you, before it consumes you. Fear not.
 
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No. Instead, we will dismantle it.

We're going to crush your globalism, because you've taken it a step too far. A forbidden line has been crossed.
Please with the "globalist" nonsense. The ICC doesn't affect you, just ignore it. Still my suspicion that they are just doing this for Bibi's sake.
 
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I assume you're not an American either then. That would explain why you and the other non-Americans seem to want to try and prosecute American people from somewhere else.

Know that we will never accept it. And now that the ICC has refused to close these cases against our people, the consequences will be severe.
If they were to commit crimes outside the US, why wouldn't they be prosecuted? You aren't of the opinion that Americans aren't required to follow laws outside the US, I assume?
 
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Can you explain, or is the irony actually on you people's end, in that *my* question can't be answered after all the previous complaints about not answering questions.
Wait, were you actually saying that seriously and not as a joke?

:sadd:
 
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If they were to commit crimes outside the US, why wouldn't they be prosecuted? You aren't of the opinion that Americans aren't required to follow laws outside the US, I assume?
Our service members are our pride and joy. You'll keep your hands off them.
 

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