Sec State Rubio vows to ‘dismantle’ International Criminal Court

Landon Caeli · Jul 16, 2026

VirOptimus said:
Why?

Give me a real, legal argument, why the ICC is bad and why it should be a prominent subjecy in US policy.

Dismantling the ICC is the correct direction we want to start heading in, if we ultimately want to dismantle the UN... which we do.

...One step at a time.

VirOptimus · Jul 16, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
Dismantling the ICC is the correct direction we want to start heading in, if we ultimately want to dismantle the UN... which we do.

...One step at a time.

I see.

Just talking points and no understanding of the subject. I guessed as much.

Landon Caeli · Jul 16, 2026

VirOptimus said:
I see.

Just talking points and no understanding of the subject. I guessed as much.

LOL, yeah whatever rude garbage you have to say - it's all a joke to me. As usual.

7thKeeper · Jul 16, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
LOL, yeah whatever rude garbage you have to say - it's all a joke to me. As usual.

But an accurate one. When asked for basis or an arguement for wanting this, you gave no reason.

A2SG · Jul 16, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
LOL, yeah whatever rude garbage you have to say - it's all a joke to me. As usual.

I'm sorry, but there has been a legitimate question posed here, and it remains unanswered. It's been asserted, by Marco Rubio as well as certain posters here, that the ICC needs to be dismantled. It's also been asserted to be ineffective and unlawful. When asked for the legal basis for these claims, the only response comes from crickets.

Now, we know why Donald Trump wants to dismantle the ICC. He's long been proven to dislike the idea of people being held accountable for their crimes. He's managed to avoid his own accountability in certain cases (though not in all of them), and he's also pardoned several people who have either been proven guilty of crimes or pled guilty to them. Rubio is likely simply following the dictates of his boss in this endeavor.

But, what is still unclear is Why. Why is the ICC unlawful? Why should it be dismantled? What's the legal basis for this action? Further, if it is, in fact, ineffective, why does it need to be dismantled at all?

It seems to me, the only reason is that Trump wants it to be dismantled is so he can avoid accountability as he has done so often in the past. I've seen no other rationale offered, so I have no alternative to consider. Perhaps you, or someone who agrees with your position on this, can give me an alternative?

-- A2SG, and please note how politely I'm asking, in case that's an issue.....

Perpetual Student · Jul 16, 2026

Vambram said:
I'm not worried that the USA military is going to intentionally break any of our rules of warfare. It ain't going to happen.

If that is the case, US soldiers and leaders have nothing to fear from the ICC, and it can stay as it is.

Perpetual Student · Jul 16, 2026

Pommer said:
“America First” could become “America Alone”.

That is already the case, see the massive support you guys had during the war against Iran.
New alliances are forming, trade deals are set up that bypass the USA. Canada is seeking stronger ties with the EU, a trade deal between the EU has been reached.
The world is gradually isolating the USA.

Hans Blaster · Jul 16, 2026

Vambram said:
The narco cartels are designated terrorists.

That's a bit sus.

Vambram said:
Stopping them is a military and legal intervention issue.

Which is it?

Vambram said:
I'm very thankful for every destruction of narco cartels terrorists boats.

When have they ever demonstrated that any of these boats are operated by "narco terrorist" cartel?

Landon Caeli · Jul 16, 2026

A2SG said:
I'm sorry, but there has been a legitimate question posed here, and it remains unanswered. It's been asserted, by Marco Rubio as well as certain posters here, that the ICC needs to be dismantled. It's also been asserted to be ineffective and unlawful. When asked for the legal basis for these claims, the only response comes from crickets.

Now, we know why Donald Trump wants to dismantle the ICC. He's long been proven to dislike the idea of people being held accountable for their crimes. He's managed to avoid his own accountability in certain cases (though not in all of them), and he's also pardoned several people who have either been proven guilty of crimes or pled guilty to them. Rubio is likely simply following the dictates of his boss in this endeavor.

But, what is still unclear is Why. Why is the ICC unlawful? Why should it be dismantled? What's the legal basis for this action? Further, if it is, in fact, ineffective, why does it need to be dismantled at all?

It seems to me, the only reason is that Trump wants it to be dismantled is so he can avoid accountability as he has done so often in the past. I've seen no other rationale offered, so I have no alternative to consider. Perhaps you, or someone who agrees with your position on this, can give me an alternative?

-- A2SG, and please note how politely I'm asking, in case that's an issue.....

Do you consider yourself a "globalist"..? Do you 'get' that there are people who hate globalism, and who actively take steps to oppose it?

...If you want to get to the core of this issue, tell your friends to ask better questions, like: "why are conservatives generally against globalism".

Landon Caeli · Jul 16, 2026

Perpetual Student said:
That is already the case, see the massive support you guys had during the war against Iran.
New alliances are forming, trade deals are set up that bypass the USA. Canada is seeking stronger ties with the EU, a trade deal between the EU has been reached.
The world is gradually isolating the USA.

Trade deals have nothing to do with the ICC. Your post is whack.

...But I do notice the pro-globalist tone of your post - so I know you at least understand this topic better than some of those here who are asking stupid questions.

Landon Caeli · Jul 16, 2026

7thKeeper said:
But an accurate one. When asked for basis or an arguement for wanting this, you gave no reason.

Finland is a very pro-globalist country, and an EU member state. Now it's time to learn something about the United States here... You may soon come to realize that the U.S. is not the kind of country that would ever willingly accept the rules and the authority of any foreign based group. Ever.

We'll always be independent, or we'll die trying. Sorry if that clashes with someone's dreams of global harmony. Oh, and also, we won't allow anyone to rival us, who wants to *change* us, or impose rules or courts on us... If a rival could prove to respect us as we are, and not try and change us by force, only then will we respect them in return, and have a cooperative relationship.

Landon Caeli · Jul 16, 2026

We're an open-minded people. We don't need to be "forced" by coersion, threats, or domination in any form by the outside world. All you need to do is talk to us, and we will listen.

VirOptimus · Jul 16, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
We're an open-minded people. We don't need to be "forced" by coersion, threats, or domination in any form by the outside world. All you need to do is talk to us, and we will listen.

The irony.

7thKeeper · Jul 16, 2026

VirOptimus said:
The irony.

Yeah, I started suspecting that that's a parody post right there.

Landon Caeli · Jul 16, 2026

VirOptimus said:
The irony.

What do you mean by that? Please explain.

Landon Caeli · Jul 16, 2026

7thKeeper said:
Yeah, I started suspecting that that's a parody post right there.

Can you explain, or is the irony actually on you people's end, in that *my* question can't be answered after all the previous complaints about not answering questions.

7thKeeper · Jul 16, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
Finland is a very pro-globalist country, and an EU member state. Now it's time to learn something about the United States here... You may soon come to realize that the U.S. is not the kind of country that would ever willingly accept the rules and the authority of any foreign based group. Ever.

We'll always be independent, or we'll die trying. Sorry if that clashes with someone's dreams of global harmony. Oh, and also, we won't allow anyone to rival us, who wants to *change* us, or impose rules or courts on us... If a rival could prove to respect us as we are, and not try and change us by force, only then will we respect them in return, and have a cooperative relationship.

And during that whole rant, you did not once address anything you were asked previously. And considering that you aren't signed to the ICC, what does any of that "we so independent" talk have to do with the topic? You aren't signatories to the court, you do know that, right? Right?

Landon Caeli · Jul 16, 2026

7thKeeper said:
And during that whole rant, you did not once address anything you were asked previously. And considering that you aren't signed to the ICC, what does any of that "we so independent" talk have to do with the topic? You aren't signatories to the court, you do know that, right? Right?

We don't have to be a signatory in order for the ICC to prosecute American service men and women. You think we're going to allow that?

Again, we will *not* allow you to force rules on us through coersion, threats, or domination in any form, including some "court" system.

READ THE FOLLOWING LINK:
State Department Launches Campaign to Dismantle International Criminal Court’s Threat to American Sovereignty - United States Department of State https://www.state.gov/releases/offi...riminal-courts-threat-to-american-sovereignty

"The ICC poses an intolerable threat to U.S. sovereignty – it claims the authority to prosecute and even imprison American servicemen and officials operating on behalf of America’s national interest. Americans never signed up for this, and all American presidents since the ICC’s ratification have maintained that the ICC does not have jurisdiction over Americans. The ICC previously opened an investigation into U.S. servicemen and intelligence officers and has since refused to close these cases."

VirOptimus · Jul 16, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
What do you mean by that? Please explain.

Is this some kind of performance art?

If not, well, Im not responsible for your education.

Landon Caeli · Jul 16, 2026

VirOptimus said:
Is this some kind of performance art?

If not, well, Im not responsible for your education.

You support a foreign court prosecuting American service men and women? You need to pay attention to what you're siding with, if you you're siding with the globalist agenda... Bud.

Read the following link and understand:
https://www.state.gov/releases/offi...riminal-courts-threat-to-american-sovereignty

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