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Have Public indecency laws, Strayed too far & what would be the answer?

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Have public indecency laws, strayed too far & what would be the answer? In America,
I'd almost rather know that the majority of people, choose to not put any clothes on & go out half naked,
Than to honor God & be modest. At least you know where their head space is.
However, when i go to the store I'm left without being able to find anything for myself.

So, have public indecency laws, strayed too far? What should we do about it, if they have?
 

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Is the problem that 1) you want to be able to cover yourself, but you can't find clothing that will do that for you, or 2) you are tempted by the sight of the men you encounter when you go out?

For (1), if you google "modest clothing for women", you can find some online sources for dresses with long skirts and long sleeves. If you're okay with wearing pants, then something like jeans and a hoodie gives you pretty good coverage as well, at least for casual winter clothing.

For (2) -- no judgment, attraction to the opposite sex is how the species keeps itself going. But, yeah, you don't want to objectify men either. We can't really pass laws prescribing dress codes in a free democracy, but we can try to keep our attention on men's faces, rather than analyzing their bodies too closely.
 
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I'm talkin' more about other women.. Out of all of the clothing that is made, women are the highest offenders of things like fast fashion, being bad for the environment, being bad for skin, being the most revealing, and etc..
Even a guy at the gym, is more modest than a woman at the gym these days..
I would be looking for more, wide leg pants & dresses with sleeves, in natural fibers

And longer, flowier tops, in natural fibers & longer lengths & the tops are never flowy, and they're never long enough.
Organic, low impact or dye free cotton, etc Silk, or linen. Sustainable fibers, etc. OK for the environment, and non toxic to your skin.

Even if a man wears polyester, for the most part his wardrobe is all the same. For women, there is so much stuff!

When i think of modesty, and dressing responsibly I also think of the fibers, and the environment & stuff like that.
That is also being a good steward of your wardrobe.

Unfortunately, there is no such thing as Organic, dye free cotton dresses anywhere in the stores.

Cotton comes in about 4 or 5 colors, surprisingly
It's not used in America anymore!
This is also, immodesty to me!
 
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Here's another thing to think about, about modesty.. These days, there is an over abundance of selections of different styles, however women are sharing their image, all over the place, and ruining the mystery of clothing.

Even if you find a piece that works for you, in America it is likely that someone else can recognize the style, or even where you bought it from!

Women are getting online, or becoming influencers and showing their garments, Purposefully so you can go and find that garment..
Which completely, ruins the mystery, for anyone!

Why would I want to wear something, that's been reviewed on YouTube, or is so popular that it's getting massive reviews,
And women are posting their picture in it, on social media!

There's no uniqueness, Body types are now wide spread to that, men now know all of the different ones.. Men know all of the different body types, a woman might have..

They also now know, different styles of things And if I buy this shirt I've been waiting for, it's already been posted online by other women!

The consumers, the models Everywhere, every one! The mystery, is no longer alive!
 
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The only website, that I have found that sells,

appropriate lengths and rises, in their pants is

Doesn't ship to the United States. I've followed them on Social media, and asked them to And it's probably, to no-avail
 
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I applaud your desire to stay with natural fibers and to protect the environment.

I don't want to use CF to advertise any clothing manufacturers, but when I google "modest clothing for women", I get a reasonable number of hits, some of which are made from cotton or linen. Most are made from dyed cloth, so if you want undyed cotton or linen, admittedly that's going to be a harder search.

I don't pay attention to the clothing promotions on social media, so I can't help you there.

If you really don't like any clothing you see in stores, could you learn to sew your own clothing? My mother sewed most of her own clothes, and two of my children sew some of their own clothes as well. (I'm afraid the sewing gene skipped a generation with me. :) ) Finding undyed cotton is going to be a challenge, so you might have to compromise there, but otherwise it lets you pick your own style, sleeve and skirt length, close vs loose fit, and so on. Also, if you're worried about competing with people on YouTube, your handmade garment would be one of a kind.
 
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I applaud your desire to stay with natural fibers and to protect the environment.

I don't want to use CF to advertise any clothing manufacturers, but when I google "modest clothing for women", I get a reasonable number of hits, some of which are made from cotton or linen. Most are made from dyed cloth, so if you want undyed cotton or linen, admittedly that's going to be a harder search.

I don't pay attention to the clothing promotions on social media, so I can't help you there.

If you really don't like any clothing you see in stores, could you learn to sew your own clothing? My mother sewed most of her own clothes, and two of my children sew some of their own clothes as well. (I'm afraid the sewing gene skipped a generation with me. :) ) Finding undyed cotton is going to be a challenge, so you might have to compromise there, but otherwise it lets you pick your own style, sleeve and skirt length, close vs loose fit, and so on. Also, if you're worried about competing with people on YouTube, your handmade garment would be one of a kind.
No, sewing is not an option for me.. i'd need an old school sewing machine from the 1800s.

The newer ones are too intricate, and go too fast. That house wifery skill skipped over me. That's not how I'm good with my hands. Although I can sort of, sew by hand. Which would take too long, and the stitches probably wouldn't last.

I've found some options of Organic cotton, and low impact dyed clothing options, but they just come in joggers, and t shirts & hoodies. I bought these sheer, head coverings
And then I drape them over my shoulders, as more like a scarf

And then it adds, almost femininity to it. They're affordable, and they're Orthodox

Then I add an Orthodox beaded bracelet, with a cross around my wrist, and my medical ID alert necklace..
All of this stuff is expensive

They sometimes have dresses on those shopping networks on tv, with sleeves that are mostly cotton, but I had a dress from a particular place from modli .co.

I have learned, over time that no matter how much my wardrobe, and the laundry starts to bother me, To keep what I really like if I find it
Because department stores
Have been put out of business,
And you can never buy the same thing again!

I lost, alot of my clothes the last time I was hospitalized. My mom says she stays up to date, but she's never up to date.
There really is no need to bring you clothes in the hospitals, anymore..
They gifted us a sweatshirt when it got cold, and they give you new scrubz when you shower now.
She brought me so many clothes, and I lost a few in the hospital.

So, it gets annoying storing a wardrobe. But, when I find a piece I want, I need to learn to keep it because it will sell out, and they'll never sell it again.
And the fabrics are never gonna be perfect.

There's only one place that sells low impact, or dye free cotton & it's gonna take me slow time to get stocked up on it.
 
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