Trump is Only angering them, and escalating it faster.. I would suggest Not poking the bear.

tobelieveinHim · Monday at 6:02 PM

If war is inevitable, with America's enemies I would suggest not poking the bear..
I think Trump has just angered them, and they still have the capabilities.

I don't think women should vote, and for the few who understand, it's Not like they're gonna escape it.
It'd be more like, "I'll run, you stay here & get hit".

No one is going to survive a Nuclear Iran. I care about the people who will be next to me, in the event of a fallout.

At the same time, there are people I wouldn't be there for.
But, a Nuclear Iran is not something the world can survive.
And I think Trump just poked the bear. Sigh

PloverWing · Monday at 6:17 PM

Suppose there are women who agree with you. Would you encourage them to influence US foreign policy by voting in the upcoming Congressional election? If not, why not?

rebornfree · Monday at 11:00 PM

I agree with the title of the thread: Trump poked the bear. He's continuing to do it.....and yes, sigh!

tobelieveinHim · Monday at 11:05 PM

rebornfree said:
I agree with the title of the thread: Trump poked the bear. He's continuing to do it.....and yes, sigh!

I fear we might have made a terrible mistake..

tobelieveinHim · Monday at 11:07 PM

PloverWing said:
Suppose there are women who agree with you. Would you encourage them to influence US foreign policy by voting in the upcoming Congressional election? If not, why not?

I have no idea what I think. I would encourage women to be non political. At the same time, I am not on the front lines. For those of us who really don't know what is going on..

Vambram · Tuesday at 5:39 PM

Iran is far weaker today than they were several months ago.

chilehed · Tuesday at 6:24 PM

You have it backwards.

Vambram · Tuesday at 7:35 PM

chilehed said:
You have it backwards.

No. I do not.

chilehed · Tuesday at 9:54 PM

Vambram said:
No. I do not.

I wasn't responding to you.

The USA is the bear, and the evil murderous scumbags running Iran have been poking it for nearly fifty years. The window of opportunity for us to respond appropriately was about to close, and thank God Trump was in office to do it rather than another of the feckless or complicit people we've had in the past.

Vambram · Tuesday at 10:06 PM

chilehed said:
I wasn't responding to you.

The USA is the bear, and the evil murderous scumbags running Iran have been poking it for nearly fifty years. The window of opportunity for us to respond appropriately was about to close, and thank God Trump was in office to do it rather than another of the feckless or complicit people we've had in the past.

My apologies. I had thought that you were responding to me. I agree with you.

tobelieveinHim · Tuesday at 10:07 PM

It would be nice if America stopped acting like Satan, only proving their point! For the record, America is not the bear. But, neither is Iran.

Vambram · Tuesday at 10:08 PM

tobelieveinHim said:
It would be nice if America stopped acting like Satan, only proving their point! For the record, America is not the bear. But, neither is Iran.

America is NOT acting like Satan.

Richard T · 2026-07-15T09:43:06-0500

Vambram said:
Iran is far weaker today than they were several months ago.

Yes, in terms of raw power. However, as Iran has been able to slow traffic to a crawl in the Hormuz strait, a case can be made that this new found power over the strait has quite a bit of leverage. I imagine Yemen and even China are encouraged to know that they too could close off waterways.

Vambram · 2026-07-15T13:39:01-0500

Richard T said:
Yes, in terms of raw power. However, as Iran has been able to slow traffic to a crawl in the Hormuz strait, a case can be made that this new found power over the strait has quite a bit of leverage. I imagine Yemen and even China are encouraged to know that they too could close off waterways.

A case can be also made that whatever leverage the IRGCC thinks they might have is also going away.

Richard T · 2026-07-16T01:17:28-0500

Yes, you could be right. The best path forward though seems to build alternatives to the strait, as is occurring. Otherwise, the USA is more likely to bear the costs of setting the strait free with our money and blood just for a few years of open seas. I will say too that the USA oil companies benefit immensely from Iran suppressing the strait traffic.

Trump is Only angering them, and escalating it faster.. I would suggest Not poking the bear.

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