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Does The "Weekly Sunday Services in NT" suggestion survive Acts 13? No?

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Freth said:
In addition to the OP...

Paul's manner:

Acts 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures.

Paul's confession:

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets.

In Paul's day, worshiping according to all things which are written in the law and in the prophets (the first table of the decalogue being front and center concerning worship), was called heresy.

History is repeating itself.
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I was listening to this sermon on the way to church today basically on the same topic how Christians have forgotten the first table of stone on worshipping God our Creator (loving God with all our heart) and only focus on the second table.

 
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Freth said:
In addition to the OP...

Paul's manner:

Acts 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures.

Paul's confession:

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets.

In Paul's day, worshiping according to all things which are written in the law and in the prophets (the first table of the decalogue being front and center concerning worship), was called heresy.

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History is repeating itself but No my friend The Way they called heresy that they are referring to in respect to Paul was his belief and teaching the Gospel in Christ Jesus.
 
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HIM said:
History is repeating itself but No my friend The Way they called heresy that they are referring to in respect to Paul was his belief and teaching the Gospel in Christ Jesus.
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So keeping the commandments of God are not part of the gospel?

Interesting when Scripture says it’s part of the everlasting gospel Rev14:6-12 specifically the topic Freth quoted from Paul, worshipping our Creator Rev14:7 Exo20:11
 
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HIM said:
History is repeating itself but No my friend The Way they called heresy that they are referring to in respect to Paul was his belief and teaching the Gospel in Christ Jesus.
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All of what Paul said in Acts 24:14 is relevant to the Gospel.

Belief

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Worship

Revelation 14:6-7 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters [Exodus 20:8-11).

The Law and the Prophets

Matthew 22:36-40 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

It is apparent in the KJV translation that I quoted previously that Paul is linking "the way" with how he worshiped and what he believed. The ESV translation makes it more clear.

Acts 24:14 ESV But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law and written in the Prophets.

How did Paul worship? According to "the way". How did he describe it? Believing all the law and the prophets.

Wouldn't taking away from what Paul apparently said be taking away from scripture? Or in the least diverting from what he actually said? And weren't we warned against this multiple times in scripture? All of what Paul said is relevant here. It takes nothing away from his teaching the gospel whatsoever, but explains key aspects of it. Belief. Worship. The law and the prophets.
 
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Paul was being specific in what he said. He was referring to preaching of Christ. That is what the text brings out.

Not sure why y’all think to insert what is not. There are plenty of other proof text to support what you are putting forth. This isn’t one of them though.
 
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HIM said:
Paul was being specific in what he said. He was referring to preaching of Christ. That is what the text brings out.

Not sure why y’all think to insert what is not. There are plenty of other proof text to support what you are putting forth. This isn’t one of them though.
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It wasn’t inserted, it was quoted verbatim by Paul. Worship to God has never been separated from how God tells us to worship Him - false worship is laying aside the commandment of God according to Jesus Isa 29:13 Mat15:3-14 Mark7:7-8 why the everlasting gospel tells us to get back to worshipping our Creator Rev14:7 Exo20:11 and shows His faithful people keeping God’s commandments and having the faith of Jesus Christ Rev14:12
 
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SabbathBlessings said:
It wasn’t inserted, it was quoted verbatim by Paul.
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Not true.
How do we know?
Because here is what he said, After the Way which they called heresy. The Way which is Christ Jesus is that which they call heresy. Not the fact that through the Way he worshipped God, believing all things written in the Law and prophets. Worshippoing God and believing all the Law and the prophets is not the issue. Christ is the issue and understanding the Gospel.

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
 
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HIM said:
Not true.
How do we know?
Because here is what he said, After the Way which they called heresy. The Way which is Christ Jesus is that which they call heresy. Not the fact that through the Way he worshipped God, believing all things written in the Law and prophets. Worshippoing God and believing all the Law and the prophets is not the issue. Christ is the issue and understanding the Gospel.

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
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The only way we can make your interpretation work is by doing this to God's word

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

This is what Paul said is the issue, its stated plainly and sadly the issue has not changed. People want to worship God on their terms Mat15:3-14 not His Rev14:12 Isa66:23 serve God on their terms, not His Isa 56:6 want all of God's blessings on their terms and not God's Isa 56:2.

And again, our salvation is from sin and keeping the commandments of God , worshipping God our Creator Rev14:7 Exo20:11 is part of the everlasting gospel Rev14:6-12 so not sure why you’re trying to separate the gospel when there is only one, its a foundational teaching of the SDA church and Scripture. I think when we take on a name which comes with a set of beliefs and claim that name, but then in the same breath say I do not teach from it, I believe thats what the Bible calls as not being a true witness, because you’re representing one thing, but teaching another and then calling out others for believing what was agreed.
 
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SabbathBlessings said:
The only way we can make your interpretation work is by doing this to God's word

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
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No it is called grammar and context.

Preconceived notions and ideas hinder that. As do Improper reading skills
 
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HIM said:
No it is called grammar and context.

Preconceived notions and ideas hinder that. As do Improper reading skills
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The Scripture reads plainly and we should allow the Bible to interpret the Bible, just as Paul stated.
" which are written in the law and in the prophets" the irony of what Paul was discussing and what we are now debating and the original point of Freth that I chimed in, that it has to be according to all the Scripture- let the Scripture determine what worship to God and the gospel means.

We can just add this as another thing to agree to disagree and God will sort it all out in His time.
 
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SabbathBlessings said:
The Scripture reads plainly and we should allow the Bible to interpret the Bible
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After the Way which they called heresy. THAT is why Paul was persecuted and what He confessed. The Way which is Christ Jesus is that which they call heresy. Not the fact that through the Way he worshipped God, believing all things written in the Law and prophets. Worshippoing God and believing all the Law and the prophets is not the issue. Christ is the issue and understanding the Gospel.

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
 
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The point is Christ is the issue because He is what all of Scripture testifies to John5:39 and Scripture as Paul said determines what worship and the gospel is Rev14:6-12 which cannot be separated Acts 24:14 Revelation 14:6-12 if it wasn't an issue there would be no point for Paul to even bring it up.
 
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