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Supreme Court sides with Trump on ending TPS for Haitians and Syrians, rules illegals outside US aren't arrivals

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The United States Supreme Court handed the Trump administration two major immigration victories Thursday, ruling that asylum seekers turned away before entering the U.S. cannot claim they have legally "arrived" in the country, and allowing the administration to end temporary protected status (TPS) for immigrants from Haiti and Syria, which was given in response to crises that unfolded more than a decade ago.

In the first case, Mullin v. Al Otro Lado, the court ruled 6-3 that a person seeking asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border has not "arrive[d] in the United States" while still in Mexico.

Justice Samuel Alito, appointed to the bench by former President George W. Bush, wrote the majority opinion. He rejected a Ninth Circuit ruling that would have allowed asylum seekers turned away at ports of entry to challenge the federal government's "metering" policy, which limited entry during periods of high migrant traffic.

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The United States Supreme Court handed the Trump administration two major immigration victories Thursday, ruling that asylum seekers turned away before entering the U.S. cannot claim they have legally "arrived" in the country, and allowing the administration to end temporary protected status (TPS) for immigrants from Haiti and Syria, which was given in response to crises that unfolded more than a decade ago.

In the first case, Mullin v. Al Otro Lado, the court ruled 6-3 that a person seeking asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border has not "arrive[d] in the United States" while still in Mexico.

Justice Samuel Alito, appointed to the bench by former President George W. Bush, wrote the majority opinion. He rejected a Ninth Circuit ruling that would have allowed asylum seekers turned away at ports of entry to challenge the federal government's "metering" policy, which limited entry during periods of high migrant traffic.

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Well, that means that aliens will be forced to illegally cross the border and then turn themselves in and ask for asylum.
 
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Well, that means that aliens will be forced to illegally cross the border and then turn themselves in and ask for asylum.
Yes, they can still cross and I inquired with google ai to determine how it worked. Failure to cross at a port of entry, whether by boat or crossing the RIo grande, or even by train allows one to seek asylum but rules are harsher for illegal border crossings. "The Consequences: Because they did not enter through an official port of entry (like a designated land checkpoint or managed seaport), they are classified as an unlawful, irregular entry, resulting in immediate physical arrest, mandatory ICE detention, and an expedited path toward deportation. [1, 2, 3]"
So this seems pretty effective and airtight unless one has a very serious case for asylum and is prepared to overcome these challenges. This however does not mean it can stop illegals who cross the border and do not report. About half of all USA illegals overstay their visas, so this would not effect them.
 
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Yes, they can still cross and I inquired with google ai to determine how it worked. Failure to cross at a port of entry, whether by boat or crossing the RIo grande, or even by train allows one to seek asylum but rules are harsher for illegal border crossings. "The Consequences: Because they did not enter through an official port of entry (like a designated land checkpoint or managed seaport), they are classified as an unlawful, irregular entry, resulting in immediate physical arrest, mandatory ICE detention, and an expedited path toward deportation. [1, 2, 3]"
So this seems pretty effective and airtight unless one has a very serious case for asylum and is prepared to overcome these challenges. This however does not mean it can stop illegals who cross the border and do not report. About half of all USA illegals overstay their visas, so this would not effect them.
I'm not sure that the AI is correct. If an alien enters illegally and turns themselves in within 200 miles of the border and asks for asylum, they become protected by our immigration laws. They then have to face an immigration judge who can deport them or grant them asylum.
 
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I'm not sure that the AI is correct. If an alien enters illegally and turns themselves in within 200 miles of the border and asks for asylum, they become protected by our immigration laws. They then have to face an immigration judge who can deport them or grant them asylum.
You might be right. I tried to check further, the source the ai used was youtube. it later referred to the government giving them a credible fear screening and based on those results different options apply.
 
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