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The New Testament begins in Acts not Matthew chapter one.

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I still say that we don't know because we are not told who wrote Hebrews. You mention Paul's infirmity. He wasn't the only Christian to have an infirmity. You say, "Paul said he wrote Hebrews and therefore it was written with his own hands." Sorry, where does Paul say that he wrote Hebrews? You also tell me, "Go back and read how all the Epistles start, they are all from Paul." That is true, but the start of Hebrews doesn't mention that Paul was the author. Hebrews starts:

(Heb 1:1) God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
(Heb 1:2) has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
(Heb 1:3) who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
(Heb 1:4) having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
(Heb 1:5) For to which of the angels did He ever say: "YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU"? And again: "I WILL BE TO HIM A FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE TO ME A SON"?
(Heb 1:6) But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: "LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM."
(Heb 1:7) And of the angels He says: "WHO MAKES HIS ANGELS SPIRITS AND HIS MINISTERS A FLAME OF FIRE."
(Heb 1:8) But to the Son He says: "YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER; A SCEPTER OF RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE SCEPTER OF YOUR KINGDOM.

No mention of the author.

I stress that I am not saying that Paul didn't write Hebrews, but that we are not told who wrote Hebrews. The important thing is that, like the rest of Scripture, the ultimate Author of Hebrews is God Himself.
AND I say the PAUL WROTE HNEBREWS !!

# 1 THE. mention of of Timothy. in. Heb. 13:23. !!

# 2 Peter said v the Paul Paul had written a letter to his people. in. 2. Peter. 3:15 and 16 !!

#v 3. And Paul is the ONLY apostle to asl for prayer for himself in. Heb. 13:18

# 4. And Paul is the only one who wroltge about. the passing away of the LAW OF MOSES , the OLD COVEANAT

IN. Hbrews 8:13. !!

And many more to mention !!

dan p
 
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AND I say the PAUL WROTE HNEBREWS !!

# 1 THE. mention of of Timothy. in. Heb. 13:23. !!

# 2 Peter said v the Paul Paul had written a letter to his people. in. 2. Peter. 3:15 and 16 !!

#v 3. And Paul is the ONLY apostle to asl for prayer for himself in. Heb. 13:18

# 4. And Paul is the only one who wroltge about. the passing away of the LAW OF MOSES , the OLD COVEANAT

IN. Hbrews 8:13. !!

And many more to mention !!

dan p
I didn't say that Paul definitely didn't write Hebrews. I just said that we do not know. I don't think your for reasons prove things one way or the other.

1. Other Christians apart from Paul would have known Timothy, and could have called him "brother".

2. Peter's words don't necessarily refer to Hebrews. As Albert Barnes wrote in his commentary on 2 Peter 3:15: "It is not necessary to suppose that Paul had written any epistles addressed specifically, and by name, to the persons to whom Peter wrote. It is rather to be supposed that the persons to whom Peter wrote 1Pe_1:1 lived in the regions to which some of Paul’s epistles were addressed, and that they might be regarded as addressed to them. The epistles to the Galatians, Ephesians, and Colossians were of this description, all addressed to churches in Asia Minor, and all, therefore, having reference to the same people to whom Peter addressed his epistles."

3. That reasoning seems to assume that your argument is true. Hebrews could have been written by somebody who did not write any other New Testament epistle, and therefore we would not be able to read other instances of him requesting prayer.

4. The same reasoning applies to this as to 3, above.
 
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Between definitely yes and definitely no lies a world definitely maybe. One additional consideration for Paul is that his heart was so strong for his people is disobeyed God to return to Israel. His passion for Israel might have led him to think if he outlined the problem for the Jews, that he might persuade them.
 
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Many may agree with that view. Personally I think that the New Testament began at the conception of Christ.

Hebrews 9:16-28

The Testator must die for His Testament to be activated. Until He dies, that Testament has no power. It was at that time, the cross, that Jesus became the just (righteousness of God that is imputed to us), and the justifier (blood shed) of those who believe in Him (Romans 3:25-26). But He had to ascend, and then give the Holy Spirit, Who, when we believe in the NT, is placed in us, and that places us in Christ, justified and born again. During the Last Supper, Jesus told His disciples, "On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you". OT-John 14:20 -And- "I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity" OT-John 17:23. That prayer is answered with the baptizing with/by the Holy Spirit, which began at Pentecost, and places every believer into Christ, bring that true unity (NT-1 Corinthians 12:13-14).

Pentecost was the first believers placed into Christ and actually justified, literally, not just in promise. That's when the NT technically began, although you could say that the OT ended at the cross, when the curtain was torn in the Temple, but the NT waited for Jesus to ascend. The Old Covenant pointed, and the New Covenant delivered. I think of the Testaments in that same way as the Covenants. Abraham was credited with the righteousness of God because of His faith, but He didn't have it except in promise because that righteousness hadn't yet been completed ("it is finished"). Some, who had heard the Gospel and believed before the cross, were given the right to because Sons of God (OT-John 1:12-13), to be born again. But that had not yet happened either, as that can only happen when a believer is placed into Christ, after the death, resurrection and ascension, which waited for the giving of the Holy Spirit to indwell believers, which waited on the death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus, so He could ascend. It's a double edged sword. The Holy Spirit would not enter a believer, (in the NT we are called the Temple of the Holy Spirit), until there was blood to cleanse that Temple, us. And the death, resurrection and ascension needed to happen so that there was blood shed, and the ingredients to save us, the atonement to apply to us, the righteousness of God established to impute to us, and a death and resurrection to spiritually identify with so that we can be born again when we are placed into Christ. Jesus summed all that up with saying that He must first be lifted up, or glorified. It all culminated and the promises began to be realized at Pentecost, the birth of the Church, the first believers placed into Jesus and born again and justified, promise delivered.

The difference between the old covenant and the New covenant there are no more animals sacrifices: Jesus was / is the sacrifice for once and all the old covenant leading to the new.

 
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@Guojing

SINCE we know that. the OLD COVENANT has been. set aside we are know under GRACE and not under the LAW

BUT UNDER GRACE , Rom 6:14 we are not under the NEW COVENENT. !!

And Paul was the FIRST ONE SAVED BY GRACE IN. ACTS 9:5 AND the first in. the BODY OF CHRIST. in

1 Tim 1:16. !!

dan p
 
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