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Former Olympian among those charged with vandalizing Reflecting Pool

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The olympian put his hand in the water. That is not vandalism. There does seem to be another "ism" going on, but not that one.

Nobody said putting his hand in the water was vandalism.

...I even took the time to copy and paste text from the article in the OP. navigating forums shouldn't be a difficult task, especially for posters with over 1000 posts.
 
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Nobody said putting his hand in the water was vandalism.

...I even took the time to copy and paste text from the article in the OP. navigating forums shouldn't be a difficult task, especially for posters with over 1000 posts.
Well what's the vandalism then? We've only got claims of vandalism and the only evidence of something being done to the pool is being done by... Well the people hired by the administration.
 
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Well what's the vandalism then?

People..!! They say no question is a dumb question... But if you keep asking the same questions over and over, expecting some different kind of result, what am I supposed to think?
 
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What I like is the people bleating and braying and sobbing about how the reflecting pool was vandalized (when it wasn’t) and poor Trump and evil liberals, blah blah blah… They were awfully quiet when national monuments were defaced on January 6th. Apparently the moral outrage over desecration of historical landmarks is deeply selective.
 
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Nobody said putting his hand in the water was vandalism.

...I even took the time to copy and paste text from the article in the OP. navigating forums shouldn't be a difficult task, especially for posters with over 1000 posts.

For my response to Mr. Trump's claim see post #15, with which agree.

I find the Olympian more credible than the president.
 
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Lol!

I can't believe people are falling for this and trying to scapegoat left wingers.

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By the way, did anyone see a picture of his good friend he hired?
He looks like the Undertaker's manager....


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It seems unlikely that any explanation other than botched pool clanging job would be accepted by people like yourself. You'll likely stick to it no matter what.

All that would be required to change the minds of most people here would be evidence.

Evidence of this "250-foot-long gash into the beautiful facade" AND that it was caused by a deliberate act of vandalism (and not say, by the workers on the renovation, or some careless National Guard trooper)..
Evidence of someone unauthorised pouring "corrosive and destructive chemicals" into the Reflecting Pool.

It's really not hard.

The US government has the means to provide this. There are press conferences, press releases, press advisories, social media accounts (both official and personal), government websites (so, so many websites). There is friendly press, friendly boosters, and so, so many social media users whose lives seem to resolve around "ownin' 'der Libs".

Yet, nothing has been presented.

There is at least one constantly streaming webcam of the Reflecting Pool.
There are regular patrols by MULTIPLE law enforcement agencies.
The United States Park Police operates a CCTV system that covers the Lincoln Memorial area. I'm going to assume, because of the area and proximity to the White House, there are probably multiple other security camera systems in the area.
Several media outlets have been live streaming the site.

Yet, nothing.


Trump is an inveterate liar. It's a know fact about him. He can't help himself. It's been documented (literally) tens of thousands of times in the last decade alone.

So, why should anyone, ever believe anything that he communicated?


This algae shemozzle is like a microcosm of his election/voting claims. Make a statement, refuse to back it up at all, get slapped in the face with evidence that is entirely to the contrary and then react by making the same (or very similar) claims all over again.

It's pathetic.
 
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By the way, did anyone see a picture of his good friend he hired?
He looks like the Undertaker's manager....

I'm thinking more 1950-1950s Batman villain. Like the Penguin, but without any of the mildly redeeming qualities.
 
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I'm thinking more 1950-1950s Batman villain. Like the Penguin, but without any of the mildly redeeming qualities.
He dyed his hair. He dyed his 'tache. But forgot his eyebrows?

I just love the threads about the pool. It's a gift that just keeps giving. A bright jewel of surreal humour in the dark fetid slop of this administration.
 
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All that would be required to change the minds of most people here would be evidence.

Evidence of this "250-foot-long gash into the beautiful facade" AND that it was caused by a deliberate act of vandalism (and not say, by the workers on the renovation, or some careless National Guard trooper)..
Evidence of someone unauthorised pouring "corrosive and destructive chemicals" into the Reflecting Pool.

It's really not hard.

The US government has the means to provide this. There are press conferences, press releases, press advisories, social media accounts (both official and personal), government websites (so, so many websites). There is friendly press, friendly boosters, and so, so many social media users whose lives seem to resolve around "ownin' 'der Libs".

Yet, nothing has been presented.

There is at least one constantly streaming webcam of the Reflecting Pool.
There are regular patrols by MULTIPLE law enforcement agencies.
The United States Park Police operates a CCTV system that covers the Lincoln Memorial area. I'm going to assume, because of the area and proximity to the White House, there are probably multiple other security camera systems in the area.
Several media outlets have been live streaming the site.

Yet, nothing.


Trump is an inveterate liar. It's a know fact about him. He can't help himself. It's been documented (literally) tens of thousands of times in the last decade alone.

So, why should anyone, ever believe anything that he communicated?


This algae shemozzle is like a microcosm of his election/voting claims. Make a statement, refuse to back it up at all, get slapped in the face with evidence that is entirely to the contrary and then react by making the same (or very similar) claims all over again.

It's pathetic.
It's easy to see that certain people firmly made up their minds about this immediately. Unrealistically expecting instantaneous full disclosure of an investigation to the press as usual. Most likely the President was told about it rather than going out there in person to examine it with a tape measure. But certain people seem to think he operates alone and does everything himself, while simultaneously claiming all he does is sleep and is too rattled with Biden style dementia to be capable of functioning in such a capacity. And never owning up to the fact that the DNC handed Trump his second presidency.
 
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It's easy to see that certain people firmly made up their minds about this immediately. Unrealistically expecting instantaneous full disclosure of an investigation to the press as usual.
We've all seen lots of images of bits of lining peeling off. None of them look "cut'. Every last one of them looks like what happens when a coating starts peeling off of something

Most likely the President was told about it rather than going out there in person to examine it with a tape measure.
No one here thinks Trump does any actual work. He's a silver-spooner all the way.
But certain people seem to think he operates alone and does everything himself, while simultaneously claiming all he does is sleep and is too rattled with Biden style dementia to be capable of functioning in such a capacity.
His posting schedule indicates that he doesn't sleep well. This leads him tired and prone to falling asleep in boring things like meetings and NBA Finals games. We need not discuss the addled nature of his mind to be reminded that he is an invertebrate liar from time immemorial.
And never owning up to the fact that the DNC handed Trump his second presidency.
Which is not relevant (even if true) in the slightest to his lies about the reflecting pool.
 
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It's easy to see that certain people firmly made up their minds about this immediately. Unrealistically expecting instantaneous full disclosure of an investigation to the press as usual. Most likely the President was told about it rather than going out there in person to examine it with a tape measure. But certain people seem to think he operates alone and does everything himself, while simultaneously claiming all he does is sleep and is too rattled with Biden style dementia to be capable of functioning in such a capacity.
Oh no.

MOST of the people he has appointed are utterly unfit and incompetent at their jobs too! He's not the only one.

As evidenced by the hiring of ....that guy. By almost all accounts Trump knew this guy and gave him a NO BID contract.

Clearly this guy had no idea what he was doing.


And never owning up to the fact that the DNC handed Trump his second presidency.

LOL!! Even when you VOTE for him it's still not your fault he's president.

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LOL!! Even when you VOTE for him it's still not your fault he's president.

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I have never voted for Trump. But thanks for showing how certain people's minds are immediately firmly made up to fit the narrative they subscribe to.
 
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We've all seen lots of images of bits of lining peeling off. None of them look "cut'. Every last one of them looks like what happens when a coating starts peeling off of something


No one here thinks Trump does any actual work. He's a silver-spooner all the way.

His posting schedule indicates that he doesn't sleep well. This leads him tired and prone to falling asleep in boring things like meetings and NBA Finals games. We need not discuss the addled nature of his mind to be reminded that he is an invertebrate liar from time immemorial.

Which is not relevant (even if true) in the slightest to his lies about the reflecting pool.
Do realize you sound like you're reading off the same script as the rest? That's one of the main factors that's burned people out from debating with with you folks. Hearing the same verbatim litany over and over again regarding virtually every issue.
 
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It's easy to see that certain people firmly made up their minds about this immediately. Unrealistically expecting instantaneous full disclosure of an investigation to the press as usual.

Supporting claims with evidence is not unreasonable. It's the bare minimum for it to be believable.

Mr Trump made the claim of vandalism on the Reflecting Pool on Truth Social on June 19, 2026 @ 9:59 PM ET. He made a second one on June 20, 2026 @ 8:36 PM ET.

It's now June 21, 2026 @ 9:11 PM ET.

He's had 47 1/2 hours to back up the first claim, and 24 1/2 hours to back up the second. The entire apparatus of the Executive Branch is at his disposal.

Meanwhile, the evidence on the ground seems to point directly against the claims:

"The [Washington] Post could not immediately verify Trump’s allegations, and reporters at the pool Sunday could not spot a gash fitting that description. At least eight officers patrolling the site, when asked about Trump’s allegation, could not point it out."


Most likely the President was told about it rather than going out there in person to examine it with a tape measure.

You realise that this make it worse, not better? In your telling, the President is credulously repeating what someone told him without seeking any evidential verification or even if it has any basis in reality.

(Of course, this might explain a lot about his presidency...)

Except, his 'Truth' of June 21, 2026 @ 4:37 PM ET includes this claim: "I just inspected it". (But, alas, still no evidence.)


The only reason that this is such a big deal is that Trump himself made it a big deal.

He's posted about the Reflecting Pool on Truth Social 31 times April. He's mentioned the Reflecting Pool (or pond, or lake) over more than 20 interviews and press gaggles. He's had official releases put out about it, three on the White House site alone. He even made an official visit. He mentioned it, over an over again, in speeches:

Remarks: Donald Trump Joins a Roundtable on Agriculture in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin - June 5, 2026​

Then we had the reflecting pond, 2,500 feet, massive, longer than a building. We have -- we have a stat here that's sort of great. Can you guys see this, OK, because I'm too cheap to put up, like, a projector. Look, so that's the pond, if it were standing up. Here's your Sears Tower, Empire State building, World Trade Center.​
Look. It's double and triple the size in terms of area. So it would have cost $400 million, Ron, to fix. It would have taken four years. And they were getting ready -- Doug Burgum has done an amazing job. And I said, you know, rather than doing that, they were going to put stone down, big stone, granite, wonderful, but it all leaks because you have joints.​
So being a very good builder, I said, you know what, I built a lot of swimming pools, many, many swimming pools. Every time I do a development, I do swimming pools. I know more about swimming pools. I said, why can't we put the wonderful material, which is thick, pasty, beautiful, like rubber, but industrial strength?​
Why can't we use it? And let's pick the color blue from the American flag, which is what we did. And that is the most beautiful thing that you've ever seen. And look at that. I mean, look at that. It just opened yesterday. Just -- we just opened it. So there was going to take four years, $400 million.​

It took, really, about a month. OK? It was going to be -- can you imagine, Washington between Lincoln -- think of Washington, DC between the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington -- just think about this. You know that beautiful spire in honor of the great George Washington, and the beautiful Lincoln Memorial?​

So between there, thousands of feet long. It was built in 1922. And to be honest, it never really worked. It leaked like a sieve because it was stone and concrete. So I took over the project. Now, Barack Hussein Obama, have you heard of him? Barack Hussein? [Audience boos] Barack Hussein Obama spent -- and Joe Biden, Sleepy Joe, they spent a total of about $150 million trying to fix it. They never got it opened.​

It never worked. It was terrible, disgusting. It was garbage-ridden. And I sent my pool guy. I said, take a look at it. And he said, well, sir, we can do it. We'll get industrial strength. And I used some guys, not him. I used some guys, but he gave me some good ideas, because he's a pro. You know, they got very upset when I sent my pool person.​

I said, who else am I going to send? So I sent him over and we sprayed it and put down beautiful, like a pool coating. It will last maybe 50 to 100 years. So here's the thing, $400 million versus like $10 million; four years -- four years versus a month. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? And -- and the difference is -- look, here's your Lincoln Memorial.​

You have the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial. Look at that, beautiful. Look at how that reflects. It's like a mirror, off beautiful, clean water. They had, like, garbage. Barack Obama wanted to save money, so he took the water out of the Potomac. That didn't work out too well. A lot of things were coming out of that river into this pond.​

It wasn't good. So we just -- think of it. So like a month of this work. We actually added to it. We did the sidewalks. Because once we did this, we had to do the rest because it looked so good. But think of it, $400 million versus like 10 million bucks, for a better job. Four years versus a month, for a better job.​
 
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Do realize you sound like you're reading off the same script as the rest? That's one of the main factors that's burned people out from debating with with you folks. Hearing the same verbatim litany over and over again regarding virtually every issue.

Yes, the facts of the matter tend to get repeated when dealing with factual matters.
 
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Oh no.

MOST of the people he has appointed are utterly unfit and incompetent at their jobs too! He's not the only one.

As evidenced by the hiring of ....that guy. By almost all accounts Trump knew this guy and gave him a NO BID contract.

Clearly this guy had no idea what he was doing.
What do you actually know about his work history? Do you have any documentation of the previous projects he's completed to verify that he doesn't know what he's doing?
LOL!! Even when you VOTE for him it's still not your fault he's president.

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Many either voted for Trump or didn't vote for Harris because as seen in the primaries, virtually nobody wanted Harris. And why was it Harris? Because they decided to go with Biden even though it was obvious he wouldn't be able to manage it. As exemplified by him having to drop out two thirds of the way in. And that my friends is how the DNC handed Trump a virtually unprecedented second presidency.
 
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Yes, the facts of the matter tend to get repeated when dealing with factual matters.
What certain people have let themselves be programmed into believing are facts. Speaking of which, what difference does a pool make when democracy and the world itself is coming to an end?
 
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Do realize you sound like you're reading off the same script as the rest? That's one of the main factors that's burned people out from debating with with you folks. Hearing the same verbatim litany over and over again regarding virtually every issue.
I think you are confused. I wrote that post. As for a litany, I only responded to your list of comments.
 
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Supporting claims with evidence is not unreasonable. It's the bare minimum for it to be believable.

Mr Trump made the claim of vandalism on the Reflecting Pool on Truth Social on June 19, 2026 @ 9:59 PM ET. He made a second one on June 20, 2026 @ 8:36 PM ET.

It's now June 21, 2026 @ 9:11 PM ET.

He's had 47 1/2 hours to back up the first claim, and 24 1/2 hours to back up the second. The entire apparatus of the Executive Branch is at his disposal.

Meanwhile, the evidence on the ground seems to point directly against the claims:

"The [Washington] Post could not immediately verify Trump’s allegations, and reporters at the pool Sunday could not spot a gash fitting that description. At least eight officers patrolling the site, when asked about Trump’s allegation, could not point it out."




You realise that this make it worse, not better? In your telling, the President is credulously repeating what someone told him without seeking any evidential verification or even if it has any basis in reality.

(Of course, this might explain a lot about his presidency...)

Except, his 'Truth' of June 21, 2026 @ 4:37 PM ET includes this claim: "I just inspected it". (But, alas, still no evidence.)


The only reason that this is such a big deal is that Trump himself made it a big deal.

He's posted about the Reflecting Pool on Truth Social 31 times April. He's mentioned the Reflecting Pool (or pond, or lake) over more than 20 interviews and press gaggles. He's had official releases put out about it, three on the White House site alone. He even made an official visit. He mentioned it, over an over again, in speeches:

Remarks: Donald Trump Joins a Roundtable on Agriculture in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin - June 5, 2026​

Then we had the reflecting pond, 2,500 feet, massive, longer than a building. We have -- we have a stat here that's sort of great. Can you guys see this, OK, because I'm too cheap to put up, like, a projector. Look, so that's the pond, if it were standing up. Here's your Sears Tower, Empire State building, World Trade Center.​
Look. It's double and triple the size in terms of area. So it would have cost $400 million, Ron, to fix. It would have taken four years. And they were getting ready -- Doug Burgum has done an amazing job. And I said, you know, rather than doing that, they were going to put stone down, big stone, granite, wonderful, but it all leaks because you have joints.​
So being a very good builder, I said, you know what, I built a lot of swimming pools, many, many swimming pools. Every time I do a development, I do swimming pools. I know more about swimming pools. I said, why can't we put the wonderful material, which is thick, pasty, beautiful, like rubber, but industrial strength?​
Why can't we use it? And let's pick the color blue from the American flag, which is what we did. And that is the most beautiful thing that you've ever seen. And look at that. I mean, look at that. It just opened yesterday. Just -- we just opened it. So there was going to take four years, $400 million.​

It took, really, about a month. OK? It was going to be -- can you imagine, Washington between Lincoln -- think of Washington, DC between the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington -- just think about this. You know that beautiful spire in honor of the great George Washington, and the beautiful Lincoln Memorial?​

So between there, thousands of feet long. It was built in 1922. And to be honest, it never really worked. It leaked like a sieve because it was stone and concrete. So I took over the project. Now, Barack Hussein Obama, have you heard of him? Barack Hussein? [Audience boos] Barack Hussein Obama spent -- and Joe Biden, Sleepy Joe, they spent a total of about $150 million trying to fix it. They never got it opened.​

It never worked. It was terrible, disgusting. It was garbage-ridden. And I sent my pool guy. I said, take a look at it. And he said, well, sir, we can do it. We'll get industrial strength. And I used some guys, not him. I used some guys, but he gave me some good ideas, because he's a pro. You know, they got very upset when I sent my pool person.​

I said, who else am I going to send? So I sent him over and we sprayed it and put down beautiful, like a pool coating. It will last maybe 50 to 100 years. So here's the thing, $400 million versus like $10 million; four years -- four years versus a month. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? And -- and the difference is -- look, here's your Lincoln Memorial.​

You have the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial. Look at that, beautiful. Look at how that reflects. It's like a mirror, off beautiful, clean water. They had, like, garbage. Barack Obama wanted to save money, so he took the water out of the Potomac. That didn't work out too well. A lot of things were coming out of that river into this pond.​

It wasn't good. So we just -- think of it. So like a month of this work. We actually added to it. We did the sidewalks. Because once we did this, we had to do the rest because it looked so good. But think of it, $400 million versus like 10 million bucks, for a better job. Four years versus a month, for a better job.​
Basically the public must know exactly what an internal investigation has concluded within 48 hours of an occurrence.
 
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