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Send them back' chants rock European Parliament after landslide vote to speed up deportations

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The European Parliament erupted into chants of "send them back" after lawmakers approved a sweeping overhaul of the European Union’s migrant return system, the latest sign that Europe is moving toward tougher immigration enforcement after years of growing anger and frustration from voters.

Members of the European Parliament voted 418 to 218 Wednesday with 30 abstentions to approve the Return Regulation, a measure designed to speed up the removal of third-country nationals who are staying illegally in the European Union.

The moment quickly turned explosive. After the vote was announced, right-wing lawmakers stood, applauded and chanted "send them back," according to a video of the meeting.

Lawmakers on the left responded by chanting "shame on you."

 

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I just hope some of the rest of us that are scattered about everywhere, sitting on the outside watching all of this, and being completely dumbfounded by it, are all going to vanish/disappear soon, and let the rest of you have it for a little while before we come back for a long while, cause this is not at all christ-like, and is clearly anti, and we are all just completely dumbfounded how the rest of you cannot see that, etc.

Come get us soon Jesus!

Return to gather/regather your true people soon Lord Jesus!

It's starting to get dark here, etc.

So, come soon Lord Jesus!

Remaining on the outside of it is becoming exceedingly diffcult, etc. And so is watching all of this, etc.

God Bless.
 
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The European Parliament erupted into chants of "send them back" after lawmakers approved a sweeping overhaul of the European Union’s migrant return system, the latest sign that Europe is moving toward tougher immigration enforcement after years of growing anger and frustration from voters.

Members of the European Parliament voted 418 to 218 Wednesday with 30 abstentions to approve the Return Regulation, a measure designed to speed up the removal of third-country nationals who are staying illegally in the European Union.

The moment quickly turned explosive. After the vote was announced, right-wing lawmakers stood, applauded and chanted "send them back," according to a video of the meeting.

Lawmakers on the left responded by chanting "shame on you."


Don't hold your breath on whether this does much. Maybe some token returns for show but not much else.

Notice how the whole purpose of Brexit was to limit immigration. And it did nothing.

Democracy in the West is just an illusion.
 
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I just hope some of the rest of us that are scattered about everywhere, sitting on the outside watching all of this, and being completely dumbfounded by it, are all going to vanish/disappear soon, and let the rest of you have it for a little while before we come back for a long while, cause this is not at all christ-like, and is clearly anti, and we are all just completely dumbfounded how the rest of you cannot see that, etc.

Come get us soon Jesus!

Return to gather/regather your true people soon Lord Jesus!

It's starting to get dark here, etc.

So, come soon Lord Jesus!

Remaining on the outside of it is becoming exceedingly diffcult, etc. And so is watching all of this, etc.

God Bless.
And I'm not saying we maybe shouldn't be more strict with our immigration policies maybe, but this cheering and chanting about it isn't at all right, when we should probably be ashamed instead, because of the reasons for our doing it, and it is just a reflection of what we're resurrecting in people's hearts, and how these people who are getting caught up in this movement, their hearts are not at all aligned with christ, and in my opinion, is actually anti-christ, etc.

And about it getting dark, you think I'd be mentioning gays, or something about LBGTQ, or something like that, because that's what many other so-called Christians are thinking, or are doing/meaning when they say that, but that's not at all the darkest part that I'm talking about here, but the truly, truly dark parts, or very, very dark parts, pale to that in comparison, etc. The truly darkest parts is what's being resurrected across the world with this whole MAGA/new conservative movement, and it's resurrecting and making very much more and increasingly worse, things like hatred, racism, and nationalism in parallel with that or those two, and a general lack of compassion for anyone else in these people's hearts, also no accountability, or ever pointing the finger at themselves in their hearts, cause those are the darkest parts, etc, and in my opinion, is very, very much anti-christ, and is not at all aligned with God's heart, or the heart of Christ, and it's amazing how many people cannot see it, but it is definitely making for some much darker times ahead, etc.

Anyway, enough of my words for now, as this is hard to talk about/watch.

God Bless.
 
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I just hope some of the rest of us that are scattered about everywhere, sitting on the outside watching all of this, and being completely dumbfounded by it, are all going to vanish/disappear soon, and let the rest of you have it for a little while before we come back for a long while, cause this is not at all christ-like, and is clearly anti, and we are all just completely dumbfounded how the rest of you cannot see that, etc.

Come get us soon Jesus!

Return to gather/regather your true people soon Lord Jesus!

It's starting to get dark here, etc.

So, come soon Lord Jesus!

Remaining on the outside of it is becoming exceedingly diffcult, etc. And so is watching all of this, etc.

God Bless.

Come back to reality. The global MAGA movement represents things that are real, and not fantasies rooted in kumbaya.

Welcome to planet earth.
 
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Those living in centuries old cities are fed up with their culture being drowned out by cultures that are supposed to be so bad people are fleeing from them. "Things are awful in our country, so lets bring it all to someplace else".
 
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Come back to reality. The global MAGA movement represents things that are real, and not fantasies rooted in kumbaya.

Welcome to planet earth.
Things that are sinful, and that people are making their God, and fallen planet earth, yeah, I know, but it's not my home. So it's hard to be in, and/or watch, etc. It's all becoming very anti really, really, really quick, etc. The hearts of many people are not right right now, etc.

God Bless.
 
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Those living in centuries old cities are fed up with their culture being drowned out by cultures that are supposed to be so bad people are fleeing from them. "Things are awful in our country, so lets bring it all to someplace else".
Immigrants tend to assimilate into whatever culture that they move to; certainly by the third generation.
Why are we against that?
 
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Immigrants tend to assimilate into whatever culture that they move to; certainly by the third generation.
Why are we against that?
Them not assimilating is what's lead to the demand of expulsion. It's why Europeans are saying London and Paris etc are practically unrecognizable anymore because European culture is being overrun by foreign culture due to excessive migration and too much liberalism.
 
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Them not assimilating is what's lead to the demand of expulsion. It's why Europeans are saying London and Paris etc are practically unrecognizable anymore because European culture is being overrun by foreign culture due to excessive migration and too much liberalism.
Assimilation takes a couple of decades. European nations’ right-wing factions will always fight against allowing more immigrants, that’s part of what make the “right-wing” the…right wing.

All of this is “normal”; it’ll be hot for a year or four then we’ll have something else to wrangle over.
 
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Assimilation takes a couple of decades. European nations’ right-wing factions will always fight against allowing more immigrants, that’s part of what make the “right-wing” the…right wing.

All of this is “normal”; it’ll be hot for a year or four then we’ll have something else to wrangle over.
Wanting to preserve culture isn't limited to right-wing. Although those who aren't normally right-wing might take a right-wing type stance in this particular matter.

The problem isn't standard immigration. The problem is excessive mass migration.

I used to work for an art museum that had a sculpture park. One day a rabbit showed up. Which was nifty. It added charm to the place. But then there were three rabbits. And over time 10, 20, 40, 80 rabbits. And that excessive over population of rabbits became a pretty bad problem. So they caught a bunch of them and put them back in their natural environment to stabilize the situation.
 
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Wanting to preserve culture isn't limited to right-wing. Although those who aren't normally right-wing might take a right-wing type stance in this particular matter.

The problem isn't standard immigration. The problem is excessive mass migration.

I used to work for an art museum that had a sculpture park. One day a rabbit showed up. Which was nifty. It added charm to the place. But then there were three rabbits. And over time 10, 20, 40, 80 rabbits. And that excessive over population of rabbits became a pretty bad problem. So they caught a bunch of them and put them back in their natural environment to stabilize the situation.
Nice job equating immigrants and vermin.
 
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They're bunnies not vermin.
Those aren't mutually exclusive terms. Bunnies are considered vermin agriculturally in some places, depending on their effect on crops.
 
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Those aren't mutually exclusive terms. Bunnies are considered vermin agriculturally in some places, depending on their effect on crops.
I didn't have vermin in mind. And I was talking about an urban sculpture park, not a farm.
 
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How were the rest of us to know that?
I said museum sculpture park. Also you could have asked me if I was equating migrants with vermin rather than accuse me of it.
 
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I said museum sculpture park. Also you could have asked me if I was equating migrants with vermin rather than accuse me of it.
We had been talking about people migrating; then you brought up animals. The point was made but the delivery suffered by your choice of anecdote.
 
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We had been talking about people migrating; then you brought up animals. The point was made but the delivery suffered by your choice of anecdote.
You asked how were you supposed to to know. I answered that you could've asked. I didn't say you should have asked. I said if you had, that's how you would've known.
 
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